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Game Thread Southern Cal 18, at tOSU 15 (Sept 12th, 8 pm, ESPN)

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Lots of bad breaks this past week...
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So... overpursuing TP?
 
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methomps;1517939; said:
Kris O'Dowd dislocated his kneecap (same injury he suffered as a frosh) in scrimmage today. Damian Williams also hurt.
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Freaking horrible news. Kris is probably the best center in the country and the anchor of the line. Considering the quarterback situation, offensive line is the absolute last place I'd want to see injuries.

Good news for Buckeye fans though.


More at this article: http://www.dailynews.com/ci_13148445?source=rss
Quarterback Matt Barkley showed he's not quite ready to be a superstar Monday night as he struggled against a heavy pass rush in USC's scrimmage at the Coliseum.

The freshman completed only five of 18 passes for 109 yards in against the Trojans' first-team defense. He missed his first six passes (with one dropped) but did not throw any interceptions and threw a 34-yard pass to wide receiver Ronald Johnson.

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...center Kris O'Dowd discolated his kneecap, which he did to the same knee two years ago. He is expected to be out at least a month.
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That would put O'Down out for the Ohio State game, which is a massive loss for us. Hopefully Barkley can get those pass-rush jitters out if he will need to be starting.

As said before, things looking good for the Buckeyes.
 
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ttk;1517962; said:
Freaking horrible news. Kris is probably the best center in the country and the anchor of the line. Considering the quarterback situation, offensive line is the absolute last place I'd want to see injuries.

Good news for Buckeye fans though.
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I don't think anyone here would consider that good news.
 
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Jaxbuck;1516720; said:
The other match up not mentioned here is coaching.

Last year was as much an ass beating in the booth as anything else. Are we finally going to have a high powered, unpredictable OSU offense sighting or are we in for more of the same?
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Putting aside the question of whether and to what extent the USC coaching staff outperformed the OSU coaching staff last year, it's not clear to me how you can view OSU's offensive strategy last year, particularly in the first half, as having been either uncreative, or more-of-the-same. Obviously you've got the play-by-play quarterback substitution, which is pretty novel. But even beyond that, there was some second level trickery, such as once the opponent has gotten used to the passing-QB/running-QB switcheroo, having the quarterbacks occassionally invert roles - for example Boeckman running an option at the goal line. That particular play didn't work, but it was obviously designed first-and-foremost as a trend-breaking surprise.

Overall, I don't remember last year's game quite the same way some of you seem to. The second half was the dismal domination that most remember, and in fact, it looked to me like the third instance I can recall in JT's tenure of an OSU team looking like it just wanted to get the defeat over with and go home ('04 Iowa and NCG vs. UF being the other two). The first half, I thought, was highly competitive over 95% of the play, and it was a couple major mistakes and a bit of bad luck that resulted in the lop-sided halftime score. My point isn't to make excuses; USC was the better team and indisputably deserved to win. My point is that, from my perspective, the OSU offense was pretty creative in the first half, and that overall OSU was pretty competitive in the first half, despite the halftime score which, as I argued above, was largely predicated on less than a handful of key plays.
 
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A re-injury of the same kneecap is not good and probably would need surgery to correct that weakness. Tough situation for the kid, much like Wilson's injuries. Hope he gets it squared away and he can play again.
 
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I haven't seen it posted within this thread, but it was O'Dowd's right kneecap, the same one he dislocated two years ago, when he missed 4 games.

The USC early reports are saying 3 or 4 weeks this time, but he's undergoing a medical evaluation today. The extent of any damage to the ligaments is the big factor in recovery time. I see no point to speculating whether he'll need surgery soon or in the offseason - the USC medical staff will make that decision.
 
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BB73;1518171; said:
I haven't seen it posted within this thread, but it was O'Dowd's right kneecap, the same one he dislocated two years ago, when he missed 4 games.

The USC early reports are saying 3 or 4 weeks this time, but he's undergoing a medical evaluation today. The extent of any damage to the ligaments is the big factor in recovery time. I see no point to speculating whether he'll need surgery soon or in the offseason - the USC medical staff will make that decision.
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That is unfortunate. A kneecap injury can keep you out for a while.
 
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I've heard a lot of different things about their injuries. Would love to see a full rundown of injuries and the severity of them. I've heard about Corp and O'Dowd having 3-4 week injuries, another sprained ankle to the RG (Howell?) and then various players banged up...
 
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zincfinger;1518027; said:
Putting aside the question of whether and to what extent the USC coaching staff outperformed the OSU coaching staff last year, it's not clear to me how you can view OSU's offensive strategy last year, particularly in the first half, as having been either uncreative, or more-of-the-same. Obviously you've got the play-by-play quarterback substitution, which is pretty novel. But even beyond that, there was some second level trickery, such as once the opponent has gotten used to the passing-QB/running-QB switcheroo, having the quarterbacks occassionally invert roles - for example Boeckman running an option at the goal line. That particular play didn't work, but it was obviously designed first-and-foremost as a trend-breaking surprise.

Overall, I don't remember last year's game quite the same way some of you seem to. The second half was the dismal domination that most remember, and in fact, it looked to me like the third instance I can recall in JT's tenure of an OSU team looking like it just wanted to get the defeat over with and go home ('04 Iowa and NCG vs. UF being the other two). The first half, I thought, was highly competitive over 95% of the play, and it was a couple major mistakes and a bit of bad luck that resulted in the lop-sided halftime score. My point isn't to make excuses; USC was the better team and indisputably deserved to win. My point is that, from my perspective, the OSU offense was pretty creative in the first half, and that overall OSU was pretty competitive in the first half, despite the halftime score which, as I argued above, was largely predicated on less than a handful of key plays.
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3 points in the first half for the offense. You can whittle any game down to several key plays but the bottom line is they didn't execute and it isn't like that's an anomaly over the past 8 years.
 
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