Skeete's Arrest & (sort of) Related Topics

[IrontonBuck]

I wonder if anyone else got busted out of this operation. I find it hard to believe that two undercover cops could live in the dorm for the whole year and just get one guy if there was another guy in the dorm with larger quantities.

 

[ShakerBuck]

if the amt. was 200 grams, that is nearly 7 ounces which (back in the early 90's would fetch ~ $1000 not any where near $70).

If it was simply $70 worth i'm sure there wouldn't even be charges.

sounds like SKeete's "source on the football team" is doing some serious dealing....I hope that part of the story isn't true

 

[zincfinger]

It might be worth it if he "went up, got the weed from his man...." It makes it sound as though some guy on the next floor up had enough weight that Skeete knew he could could get a half pound without blinking.

That makes no sense whatsoever. If there was some major Marijuana Don living directly above Skeete, and the cops were trying to trap The Don in a sting, they wouldn't go after it by randomly asking people, who supposedly had never touched pot in their lives, if they knew where to score some. And if they miraculously did get some unfortunate passer-by, who had never touched pot, to go upstairs to The Don to score a few ounces, they would know exactly where he went, would probably have him under surveillance, and wouldn't now be needing to lean on him to find out who his source was. And all of that doesn't matter, because if you're the chief of police, you don't tell two of your officers to drop out of their lives for 6 months and pose as college students 24 hours a day so that they can occassionally ask other college students, students who have no drug connections whatsoever, if they know where to score some dope.

 

[BuckeyeTrail]

i don't think the $70 was a finder's fee, from the story i heard skeete didn't profit at all

i'm not advocating anarchy. i agree with the majority of the laws that our government passes. some i happen to disagree with. there is a reason why our constitution allows for amendments.

i believe that the police should exist to protect the people. if this story about undercover cops in the dorms is true, they aren't protecting anybody. Kids in the dorms that choose to obey the law and not partake in pot are not being threatened in any way shape or form by the kids that choose to break the law and get high.

we all love to bitch about how high our taxes are, but then we support these ridiculous operations. i think the police department could better spend our money someplace else.

Colleges were created in ancient times as a way for different people from different places and backgrounds to come together and exchange ideas. the idea of college is to meet a lot of people, because one of the best ways to gain knowledge about the world is through personal interactions. when you plant undercover cops in the dorms....now everyone is afraid. nobody trusts each other anymore. people aren't going to want to befriend a person that they don't know. this is not a good environment for young people to grow in.

 

[Alan]

edit: to make this simple since the two sides cant communicate

1-i don't care if you use pot yourself...it's not my bag (pun intended)

2-athletes should avoid pot like the plague....if it came out at a party, we left for fear of second hand intake and other reasons....

 

[LRABuck]

The part that worries me most about this rumor of yours is that you suggest he got it from another player....

 

[CoosMeister]

wtf alan...great that your calling someone out on an internet board saying what he does or does not do. Having undercover cops in dorms is retarded. What are you catching besides drugs? Let me tell you something, drive into downtown Cleveland on a Sat. night. You won't have to take more than 100 steps before someone offers you it. The police did not need to be there 6 months to get a kid to do something illegal.

That said, I'm not advocating it. I don't do it, won't do it, think its stupid. But wasting tax dollars on THAT is pathetic. The money would be better spent in Iraq where I'm sure they could use it.

 

[Alan]

edit: to make this simple since the two sides cant communicate

1-i don't care if you use pot yourself...it's not my bag (pun intended)

2-athletes should avoid pot like the plague....if it came out at a party, we left for fear of second hand intake and other reasons....

 

[Pheasant]

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Yes, yes, you're right. I was trying to make a case that it could make sense, but no. In the future I'll try to avoid saying dumb shit....it's just that this whole explanation of what happened has me a little assbackwards.

IF there were 2 undercover cops working the dorms for almost an entire school year, and they finally got their connection to buy a HALF POUND of weed, you'd think they wouldn't need Skeete to roll on anyone....he would've been followed, surveiled, something. This whole scenario makes no sense. I hope he's the only football player involved. I can't bother with this dumb shit anymore until we find out what actually happened (if we ever do)....it's making my head hurt.
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Alan]

thanks you findlay for getting it and i too bow out of this...

 

[BB73]

The story that's supposedly coming from Skeete's brother sounds a little too convenient to me. They may have been undercover cops in the dorm, which I don't have a problem with in principle.

But I don't believe that the cops would have involved someone in trying to help them make a buy unless they had reason to believe that the person was at least smoking himself. If the cops lived in the dorm for months, don't you think they'd learn which rooms had a mysterious odor, or at least had towels at the bottom of the door, before asking somebody to hook them up?

It's still possible that Skeete was contacted without being a smoker himself (maybe just a roommate of his was), but I find that unlikely. And if he wasn't at least smoking some weed himself, he was a total idiot to get involved in scoring some for somebody else. He doesn't sound like somebody that naive or foolish, although he's still fairly young.

And pointing a finger at someone else when you've made a big mistake sounds like somebody else that was acquainted with Vince Marrow.

But I recommend that we allow some more actual facts to come out before we continue to argue with each other about third-hand stories and pure speculation.

 

[Oh8ch]

Even if this whole wild sceanrio were word for word true all it does is make Skeete one unlucky SOB. Fact is that all he had to say was "No man, I don't want to get involved in selling anybody any drugs." Real simple. And nothing he didn't know he should have said.

If it is true he probably will walk away with some sort of probation, if that. But I would be sadly disappointed in JT if he sends the message to his team that it is OK to sell drugs, but only if it is just a little and only if you aren't profiting from it.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Let me tell you something, drive into downtown Cleveland on a Sat. night. You won't have to take more than 100 steps before someone offers you it.

Coos - I doubt that your parents ever let you go downtown on a Saturday night...

To the rest of you - cool it on the speculation. Let's just wait until the facts come out before we condemn Skeete, the cops, the system, etc. And, until so-and-so's brother-in-law's next-door-neighbor actually comes on this board to say what he knows, or guesses, or opines, let's forgo the rumors, innuendo, hearsay, etc.

If you want to discuss the merits of marijuana laws, the unfairness of sting operations, or the price of tea in China, then please take it to the Open Discussion forum; this forum is about Buckeye football.

Thanks - I'll let Grad split this sucker if he should deem it necessary.

 

[BuckeyeTrail]

i know consequences for actions are an amazing concept to you....

if i do an action that endangers somebody else, or causes harm to any person or thing other than me, i will happily accept the consequences.

if i do something that doesn't harm anyone else, then yes, i will have a problem with my life being ruined over it.

you love to talk about how you stayed clean while you were an athlete. in high school, i didn't even drink a single beer or take a puff of anything. i was totally clean, in every way, and in my senior year we won the state championship. i chose to not take any risks because i did not want to endanger our championship aspirations.

i also do not think that i am a better person than jonathan skeete. i feel that if the story i heard is true, then the punishment does not fit the crime. i must be a dumbfuck for thinking this way.

mike doss got high after the 2002 michigan game. what if an undercover cop had caught him? would all you people have been so quick to lambast doss? he didn't get caught, and he's a buckeye legend. skeete gets caught doing something that potentially could have been more of a friendly gesture than anything else, and he's a pariah.

i have no problem with you calling me a dumbfuck through a computer screen, if you will walk up to mike doss and call him a dumbfuck to his face.

i am a dumbfuck because i think that undercover cops in a dormitory is a bad idea. i am a dumbfuck because i feel sympathy for a good, hard-working kid that was well-liked by all of his coaches, who finds himself caught in a sticky situation.

i don't understand the venom you have towards me and others who disagree with you. do you see me calling you names? no, because i happen to respect people's opinions, even if they differ.

the problem with the war on drugs is that it will never be won. instead of learning from history and what occurred during prohibition, we choose to repeat the same mistakes. these undercover stings isn't going to stop people from using. all you can do is educate (i mean educatate and not spread propaganda like those ridiculous anti-drug commercials) teenagers about the dangers of each substance. then, when they turn 18 and become an adult, they are free to make their own choices provided that they don't harm anyone else. what a dumbfuck, radical, and dangerous way of thinking this is! i am so burnt out on all the weed that i smoke twice a month that anything i have to say about any issue should be ignored, because i am a huge dumbfuck.

i am trying to have an intelligent discussion here. it's really hard for me though, because all my brain cells have been fried.

this whole skeete situation has really opened my eyes as to how divided we are as a society. if we are going to make any progress, this gap needs to be bridged, but all this ridiculous name-calling prevents this from happening. this is why i hate democrats and republicans; they let their hate for the other side cloud their vision on any issue.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Well, if we're gonna bitch about bullshit enforcement of laws, let me chime in on the 74-in-a-55 speeding ticket I got last month, at 10:32 a.m., going up a fairly steep grade on a interstate highway (yeah, it's Hawaii, but there are three highways deemed as "interstates" because they were built with federal under the federal highway program), on cloudless day on dry pavement, with not another car within 200 yards of me (and those cars were doing approximately the same speed as me). I drive Lexus IS300 which has great brakes and which tires run flat for a few miles (so even if I had a blowout I could easily maintain control). The highway was originally designed so that any vehicle can safely drive 70 miles an hour, despite the current speed limit of 55. There was no reason for the cop to tag my ass...I was of absolutely no danger to anyone else or myself. And now I have to pay a $152 fine plus face points on my driving record. So why should I have to put up with this shit? Because it's the fucking law, that's why. I'm not pissed at the cop or the police department who put him out there. I have no one to blame but me. I knew the speed limit is 55 (and that the cops leave you alone unless you break 70), and that cops are on that stretch of road all the time (this is my second speeding ticket since moving back here, and they both occurred within 1/4 of each other). No one else was in the car but me. No one told me to drive faster, or pushed my foot down further on the accelerator. I, and I alone, fucked up and now have to pay the consequences.

Same thing with Skeete. He knew buying pot was wrong, and was far more illegal than a crime more trivial such as a speeding ticket. He rolled the dice by his actions, just like I did. Kids may buy pot in the dorm all the time, just like folks speed on the highway I drive all the time. That doesn't change or negate the law. You do the crime, you do the time.