why don't we talk about deciding which one of your children gets to live and which one dies while we are at it?
you sick bastard
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why don't we talk about deciding which one of your children gets to live and which one dies while we are at it?
you sick bastard
zincfinger
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Surely your heart is not so cold and dark that you failed to take full enjoyment from those 45-whatever thrashings of crappy RichRod teams.
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I have changed my attitude on it somewhat, that is for sure.
The 4 team playoff has not diminished the regular season and that was my biggest fear of a playoff so that's the biggest thing.
Now we are at the 4 vs 8 stage and I can see some merit to both really. It will just come down to "how" at the end of the day.
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Yin without a yang is a tear drop with a circle in it.
It is when yin does have a yang that they form a circle.
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zincfinger
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I disagree on that. The 4-team playoff has slightly "diminished" the importance of the regular season; the question is whether that diminution is good, bad, or neutral. Every season's different, but generally under the previous regime, for OSU to be confident in a shot at the national title, they'd better not lose a game in the regular season. Now they can generally lose one and they're still good. There is a lessening of importance of regular season games in that, but you can reasonably argue that that's a good thing. You can further reasonably argue that it's only good so long as it isn't taken too far, as I think you are arguing.
edit: At the end of the day, I think probably the true measure of the best post-season set-up, for most of us on here, is: whatever system results in more national championships for OSU, is the better one.
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We probably need to move this to a playoff thread of some sort but I agree that it shouldn't be taken too far (but open to the idea that 8 may not be too far)
I do feel that 1 loss doesn't equal season over is a actually an enhancement of the regular season but it's semantics.
The college football regular season was the greatest thing in sports before the 4 team playoff and I think it still is after the 4 team playoff.
That is a better way to state my view than "diminished regular season".
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zincfinger
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I totally agree with your sentiment, but with one caveat. JLB's post about OSU having a fine SOS in 2014, with Wisconsin and MSU being good, and despite UM and PSU both being garbage, made me think of the old BigEast. Back in the days when it was Miami, a couple of pretty consistently good programs (WVU, VTech, maybe the occasional Friedgen-led Maryland team or something edit: Maryland was never in the BigEast, so substitute that with Pitt, or some other mostly crappy, occasionally okay team), and mostly a lot of garbage. That's kind of what a BigTen where UM and PSU both perpetually stink sounds like. OSU would still be fine from a national ranking perspective as long as they consistently had 1 to 2 upper-end non-conference games (as Miami used to do), but man, that conference sucked.
edit: At that point, it might be time to say that the traditional, regional nature of college football is obsolete; the only real purpose of a college football season is to crown a national champion; dissolve the traditional conferences and form new, balanced, national divisions of college football. We may be halfway there already.
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I am not a fan of The Game. I am not a fan of the rivalry. I don't care if The Game is played on the Big Ten's new Friday night schedule.
I'm a fan of Ohio State. I hate Michigan. If Ohio State crushes Michigan to such an extent that the Game means nothing, that would be just perfect so far as I am concerned.
And yes, I will be very enthusiastic and excited by that.
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Honor&Glory
Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
It think what is getting lost here is it appears some of you have forgotten FUCK *ICHIGAN
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I am still not sold on a playoff and do believe it has diminished the regular season.
Used to be we celebrated B1G titles. Now we celebrate not having to play in the B1G CG because we don't risk injury.
You can make a stronger case this year that we should crown Alabama without any playoff than you that we should move to 8 teams.
PSU beat us but nobody would agree they are the better. If Washington beast Bama would anyone genuinely believe they are the better team?
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Just to play devils advocate, now instead of our season being ruined by the 1 loss we still have something to play for. That is because there is a playoff.
This is the same argument that can be had in any sport. Do you want to have a vote on who had the best regular season or do you want to have a tournament champion?
Since they don't all play each other during the regular season the tournament seems the best choice. We have seen the vote method for years. Then it went to a 2 team tournament, now 4.
College football has survived and thrived all along the way.
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no, not really
I say the 1 loss and you are out, no reprieve system is lesser than the current system where you still have a legit chance after 1 loss (depending on timing).
Without debating each specific instance, I would theorize that for every game that potentially lost some luster you picked up at least one that suddenly has new meaning with the playoffs expanded to 4 from 2.
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zincfinger
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The NCAA men's basketball regular season says, "Hi." Or, as a wise man once said:
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