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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

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LovelandBuckeye said:
When do they offer $13,000,000 to a potential recruit?
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Hopefully never. Why spend your fans money when you can just line up business opportunities?

What's better?

1. 500k now

2. 500k over 4 years with numerous businesses.

The connections alone are worth more than the up front. That's not even including the development etc we typically provide over the Miami/T&AM of the world.

IMO, it'd be cool to line up business opportunities for the money now. Then take donations etc for a massive athlete project such as condos for the athletes etc.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Hopefully never. Why spend your fans money when you can just line up business opportunities?

What's better?

1. 500k now

2. 500k over 4 years with numerous businesses.

The connections alone are worth more than the up front. That's not even including the development etc we typically provide over the Miami/T&AM of the world.

IMO, it'd be cool to line up business opportunities for the money now. Then take donations etc for a massive athlete project such as condos for the athletes etc.
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Yeah but $500k, just like the $13m wasn't for now. It was to be spread out over 4yrs. The devil is always in the details. The up front money isn't one check, from everything I've read, these deals are for multiple years. Maybe he would've gotten $50k up front.

Interesting specifics on the Rashada deal:
 
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strohs said:
College athletes do get paid.
They get a free education and a stipend.
I hate these whiney ass people who think they should get paid.
Big damn deal, they have to go work out every day, I do that just to feel good about myself.
Oh whats that? College is expensive? Try telling that to the other 48,000 kids who have to pay their own way.
College athletes are given thousands, and thousands of dollars per year to attend school.
If you want to pay college athletes, then you should also pay electrical engineers.
After all, we will be the ones who dictate your future.
What happens on the football field makes for great water cooler talk,
but what engineers develop in labs changes your life, so why pay them and not us????

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Ill bring up one more point that I have brought up before.
Research brings in millions and millions of dollars a year to tOSU, but I dont see anyone crying that grad and undergrad students (you know, the ones who actually do the research) dont get any money.
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When grad students start bringing business to Ricart, Ricart will surely pay them. When grad students make the football team better, business will pay them.
 
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I'm starting to admire Pantoni's open stance more and more. It's never the kids, but always the grown ups causing the issues. And it's in OSu's best interest to head the other way when the family members want the "side discussions" with coaches about what money can be earned front the start
 
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pnuts34 said:


I'm starting to admire Pantoni's open stance more and more. It's never the kids, but always the grown ups causing the issues. And it's in OSu's best interest to head the other way when the family members want the "side discussions" with coaches about what money can be earned front the start
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There's several interesting replies, one in particular that stands out:

 
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There has to be 1000s of other blatant tampering situations but it’s very on-brand the NCAA hits the Miami U women’s basketball twins with the first infraction.

of course the Cavinder twins were going to end up in South Beach (no complaints here)

 
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Article on the effects of NILs on retaining your coach:


Baylor AD Mack Rhoades fears demands of NCAA transfer portal, NIL will drive head coaches away​


"That feeling you have (that the NIL market has not corrected itself) is absolutely correct," Rhoades said in his interview with 365 Sports. "All of us want there to be a correction and I think all of us hope there is. When I say all of us, I'm think I'm even speaking on behalf of schools that have these tremendous donor bases and are primarily just focused on NIL and have these coffers of sums money when you think about NIL. I don't think anybody likes it or is enjoying it.

"I think we will have coaches, if things don't correct themselves, in the future that are going to get out. Those who have been in it long enough to save some money, I think some are going to get out because it's just not what anyone signed up for. In this moment we are speaking, I think it has exploded when it comes to NIL and the Transfer Portal. There are more than 1,300 in the portal for men's basketball. Right now, we literally have a pay-for-play system. We can dance around it, but that is what we have right now and I don't think anybody particularly cares for it."
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Just this month, Ole Miss football coach Lane Kiffin offered his thoughts on the challenges in the NIL/portal era, fearing that football programs without strong NIL collectives are at risk of becoming obsolete. In other words, Kiffin fears schools without deep pockets could simply become farm systems, unable to retain talent they developed that was overlooked by bigger programs on the recruiting trail.

"If you don't have a good collective, you're going to lose your own players and then you're really in trouble," Kiffin told ESPN. "I don't care, you can pick an all-star coaching staff, if they don't have a collective, they're not going to win. So when you find a guy that wasn't a five-star recruit — Quinshon (Judkins) — and you lose that, you can forget about it. How are you ever going to sign really good players? Because they're going to say, 'Wait, your own guy that was there and had all this success, he's not even going to stay. Why am I going to go there? Why transfer and then when I get there all the good players are going to leave?'"
 
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Where would the world be with Baylor having a football team?

Lots of things sort themselves out after market disruption. A lot of the old players aren't in the game anymore. The heard gets thinned, the most adaptable adapt and thrive. Those that can't adapt, die.

Maybe the pay for play disruption is showing that the old model was a bloated fat corpse waiting for something to kill it?
 
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Players will now be "cashing in" with NIL money for their likeness in the EA College Football Video Game (i.e. Summer 2024).

www.elevenwarriors.com

The Weekender: Michigan Turns Away Caleb Love, EA's College Football Game Will Feature Real Players and Kelvin Sampson Flirts with the NBA

Michigan rejects its prized transfer, EA's new college football video game sounds awesome and Kelvin Sampson might leave Houston.
www.elevenwarriors.com www.elevenwarriors.com

GAMERS REJOICE​

Sports fans celebrated on Wednesday when news broke that EA's college football video game – set to be released in the summer of 2024 – would feature real players.



The vast majority of eligible athletes will undoubtedly choose to be included in the game, and some might even undergo a face scan to make their virtual appearance accurate. These are sweeping changes from the NCAA Football 14 game, which simply showed a player's position and jersey number instead of their name.

Several schools, including Wisconsin and Northwestern, were once hesitant to join the party. But with NIL details now squared away, more and more teams are committing. EA wants every FBS school to participate, and that seems like a legitimate possibility; over 120 programs are already on board.

The initial announcement of a new installment in EA’s college football series happened over two years ago, and it sparked a frenzy among former Heisman trophy winners and the sports world at large.

 
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Gene Smith is throwing his support behind a bipartisan effort to create a federal standard for NIL in college sports.

The Ohio State athletic director has endorsed the Student Athlete Level Playing Field Act, a bipartisan bill introduced Wednesday in Congress by Representatives Mike Carey and Greg Landsman, both from Ohio, to create a federal standard for NIL in college sports.

“I’m pleased that student-athletes now have the opportunity to benefit from their name, image and likeness. At Ohio State, our NIL programming assists student-athletes as they capitalize on their hard work, generate income for necessary expenses, and learn marketing and financial literacy skills. However, NIL laws and regulations remain inconsistent from state to state,” Smith said in a statement released by Carey. “Representative Carey’s work to bring forth consistent, national NIL regulations will further protect student athletes and bring order to NIL policies and procedures nationwide. On behalf of Ohio State, I want to thank Representative Carey for this significant and important legislation.”

 
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:lol:

"I know...let's get the Feds to help us fix a mess. They are always so good at that."

I mean, how many times do you have the football pulled away before you realize that no matter how many times they say they are doing it to protect/help you...they aren't really protecting/helping you?

Ahh Gene. Apex bureaucrat gonna bureaucrat I guess.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
:lol:

"I know...let's get the Feds to help us fix a mess. They are always so good at that."

I mean, how many times do you have the football pulled away before you realize that no matter how many times they say they are doing it to protect/help you...they aren't really protecting/helping you?

Ahh Gene. Apex bureaucrat gonna bureaucrat I guess.
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I totally agree.

But politicians of all types will forever nose in to whatever gets people pissed off/emotional or if it involves endless amounts of cash...
 
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Mike80 said:
I totally agree.

But politicians of all types will forever nose in to whatever gets people pissed off/emotional or if it involves endless amounts of cash...
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It's more these willing victims people that want the government's "help" that never ceases to amaze me. It's their default setting to cure any and all societal ills.

Whatever. Like we say when recruits and players make bad decisions...life has a lead pipe cinch motherfucker of a way to keep score.
 
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