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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

Interesting. Why do you say that? Do you think there should be no salary cap, or that it limits the free market?
I don’t think it’s any different than the three mine owners in town getting together and colluding to suppress wages back in the 19th century.

They will do it and it will take zero time for a player, their agent or a business that’s told the “clearinghouse” disallowed their NIL deal to sue the shit out of them and very likely win blowing the whole thing up.

If that doesn’t do it title IX will. You can’t have professional football inside the University structure. It’s obvious to anyone willing to be honest about it.
 
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I don’t think it’s any different than the three mine owners in town getting together and colluding to suppress wages back in the 19th century.

They will do it and it will take zero time for a player, their agent or a business that’s told the “clearinghouse” disallowed their NIL deal to sue the shit out of them and very likely win blowing the whole thing up.

If that doesn’t do it title IX will. You can’t have professional football inside the University structure. It’s obvious to anyone willing to be honest about it.
Problem is a majority of college athletic teams have been gaslit for generations into thinking that free room and board should be enough :roll1:

To use your analogy, its like the three mine owners gaslighting the townsfolks into thinking its best for them and their family's not to get paid a wage, but they will pay will pay their rent and for their food. I can't imagine any industry in America where the talent isn't paid for their service. Fans will wear a jersey of their favorite college player, buy one for their kid, and get mad that the kid can earn money for their name, image and likeness. But be fine if a kid drops out of OSU, Texas, ND, etc to work for a brokerage firm, or that same fan won't care that there are already teenagers in Europe making 6 and 7 figures to play soccer, tennis, or in the arts
 
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Problem is a majority of college athletic teams have been gaslit for generations into thinking that free room and board should be enough :roll1:

To use your analogy, its like the three mine owners gaslighting the townsfolks into thinking its best for them and their family's not to get paid a wage, but they will pay will pay their rent and for their food. I can't imagine any industry in America where the talent isn't paid for their service. Fans will wear a jersey of their favorite college player, buy one for their kid, and get mad that the kid can earn money for their name, image and likeness. But be fine if a kid drops out of OSU, Texas, ND, etc to work for a brokerage firm, or that same fan won't care that there are already teenagers in Europe making 6 and 7 figures to play soccer, tennis, or in the arts

Yep.

You technically have 134(?) mine owners but only 20-30 of them are the ones colluding to suppress wages and control the ability of workers to move between jobs.

Any other industry in America (that doesn't have anti trust exemption) wouldn't dare to even try something like this. The real hard part for me to swallow is how obvious and direct the SCOTUS was to the NCAA and how the Universities are trying to work around it anyway.

Now that the title IX/DOE hammer fell, I don't see any alternative to what some of us have been saying all along. Split the pro sports teams off from the universities. It insults the intelligence that people are still pushing that farce and expecting others to believe it.
 
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Yep.

You technically have 134(?) mine owners but only 20-30 of them are the ones colluding to suppress wages and control the ability of workers to move between jobs.

Any other industry in America (that doesn't have anti trust exemption) wouldn't dare to even try something like this. The real hard part for me to swallow is how obvious and direct the SCOTUS was to the NCAA and how the Universities are trying to work around it anyway.

Now that the title IX/DOE hammer fell, I don't see any alternative to what some of us have been saying all along. Split the pro sports teams off from the universities. It insults the intelligence that people are still pushing that farce and expecting others to believe it.
The problem is, MANY people still believe it. MANY people still want the old model back where kids are pad under the table, and they can play sanctimonious that their program is getting players "the right way". I was just having a discussion with a parent of one of my daughters friends who's an OSU legacy. He truly believed that every OSU football only went to OSU out of love for the school and win titles. He only believed that teams in the SEC paid for players. Even though he and his wife attended OSU when Cris Carter was playing :roll1: ... Some fans want to feel morally superior and the "ignorance is bliss" mind frame.

But yes, athletic programs like football and even basketball need to just split off and stop the charade of "student athlete". Its minor league professional sports, just treat it that way.
 
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The problem is, MANY people still believe it. MANY people still want the old model back where kids are pad under the table, and they can play sanctimonious that their program is getting players "the right way". I was just having a discussion with a parent of one of my daughters friends who's an OSU legacy. He truly believed that every OSU football only went to OSU out of love for the school and win titles. He only believed that teams in the SEC paid for players. Even though he and his wife attended OSU when Cris Carter was playing :roll1: ... Some fans want to feel morally superior and the "ignorance is bliss" mind frame.

But yes, athletic programs like football and even basketball need to just split off and stop the charade of "student athlete". Its minor league professional sports, just treat it that way.

Yeah, to be honest I don't care what fans say or think. It the University Presidents/AD's and coaches that piss me off.

They are the ones "ruining the sport", as we hear so often, by refusing to let go of the need for all the power and money. Accept the new reality and things can align properly. Fight like mad to hold onto the past framework and it will just continue to not serve anyone.

The money can still be made in a pro sports model, you are just going to have to concede some of it to the guys who do the work.
 
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