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Shaggy Texas - Shaggy Bevo, Thujone, MS Pain, Butt Hurt, and BBQ (RIP)

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colobuck79 said:
Agreed. I think the head coaching job at Tejas is like being the greens keeper at a high end country club. You have a thousand bosses who are all assholes and you can never satisfy any of them.
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I'd say the biggest difference was that our period of mediocrity was roughly a dozen years. I'd say it started when the 1980 pre-season #1 team went 9-3 and ended with Cooper's 1993 team. Yes, Cooper still choked at the end of the year after that, but the program was contending for national championships. The difference with Texas is that it's their period of relevance in the last 40 years has been less than ten years. Other than Mack's run, it's been a few singular seasons surrounded by year-after-year of mediocrity and a trail of fired coaches.
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Texas and Ohio State have been very similar over the years. Both programs did well in the early years but failed to gain a lot of national recognition. Then in the 1950s, each program hired its "Mount Rushmore" coach - Darrell Royal for Texas, and Woody Hayes for Ohio State. In the two decades after Royal, Texas had three coaches and five losing seasons; in two decades after Woody, Ohio State had two coaches and only one losing season. Each school then experienced a renaissance, Texas with Mack Brown and Ohio State with Jim Tressel. The big difference is what has happened since Brown and Tressel left their respective programs - Ohio State has risen to new heights with Urban Meyer, while Texas is plumbing new depths with Charlie Strong.

Overall, Ohio State is slightly better in all categories except total wins, but the Buckeyes should pass the Longhorns sometime this season.

TEXAS LONGHORNS
YearsCoachesRecordWinning PctConf TitlesNatl TitlesTop 5 AP
1893 - 1956various365-146-36.7031203
1957 - 1976Darrell Royal167-47-5.7741139
1977 - 1997various158-85-4.648603
1998 - 2013Mack Brown158-48-0.767515
2014 - 2015Charlie Strong7-11-0.389000
1893 - 2015All Coaches882-346-33.71334420

OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
YearsCoachesRecordWinning PctConf TitlesNatl TitlesTop 5 AP
1889 - 1950various328-157-38.6631012
1951 - 1978Woody Hayes205-61-10.76113310
1979 - 2000Bruce, Cooper192-69-5.731703
2001 - 2011Tressel, Fickell112-29-0.794717
2012 - 2015Urban Meyer43-3-0.935112
1889 - 2015All Coaches880-319-53.72438624
 
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NFBuck said:
You would think so, and it does seem likely. But sometimes, Stoops gonna Stoops. I think OU wins, but it would not shock me whatsoever if the horns give them a game...or even upset them.
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That would be even better.

Give them that tiny glimmer of hope each year, just enough to keep things dragging along right where they are.
 
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Woody1968 said:
You would think so, but it is Chokelahoma
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One game that Oklahoma comes ready for is the Red River rivalry, especially since they've owned UT 4 of 5yrs. I went to the game in 2012, and couldn't stop laughing as UT fans left in droves by halftime. I sat there the whole game laughing and in awe of a 1/3 empty Cotton bowl. It looked like a HS game. I don't see how Strong keeps the game competitive, especially since this team doesn't seem to have much fight in them regardless of a rivalry game. That TCU team took their and stomped on it and UT did nothing. I think Perine runs all over this defense
 
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pnuts34 said:
One game that Oklahoma comes ready for is the Red River rivalry, especially since they've owned UT 4 of 5yrs. I went to the game in 2012, and couldn't stop laughing as UT fans left in droves by halftime. I sat there the whole game laughing and in awe of a 1/3 empty Cotton bowl. It looked like a HS game. I don't see how Strong keeps the game competitive, especially since this team doesn't seem to have much fight in them regardless of a rivalry game. That TCU team took their and stomped on it and UT did nothing. I think Perine runs all over this defense
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Possible, but OU is more of an "air raid" offense now. More likely that they throw for like 500 yards on them. The only thing that keeps me from really thinking "Big Game" Bob blows this game is what a smoldering tire fire the tejas defense is. It is historically bad at this point.
 
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To illustrate what a horror show their D is, this is a post from the shag I linked on the last page:

Your Texas Longhorns defense...
Run Defense: #108 (210.6 yds/game);

Pass Defense: #118 (296.6);

Total Defense: #119 (507.2);

Scoring Defense: #113 (38.2 points/game).

Strong & Bedford. Defenseless. The only teams lower than us in total defense, are Kansas, Idaho, N. Mexico State, Texas Tceh, Tx State, Tulsa, & SMU.

Think how bad we'd be if we weren't #9 in turnover margin (+1.00/game).
 
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Muck said:
That would be even better.

Give them that tiny glimmer of hope each year, just enough to keep things dragging along right where they are.
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I dig your thinking on this. That tiny glimmer of hope does make the eventual medicine taste all the more bitter. Where I disagree is that the tiny glimmer of hope has already come with the close (blame the refs) losses to Cal and Okie-Lite. Now it's time for the suffering to continue.
 
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NFBuck said:
Possible, but OU is more of an "air raid" offense now. More likely that they throw for like 500 yards on them. The only thing that keeps me from really thinking "Big Game" Bob blows this game is what a smoldering tire fire the tejas defense is. It is historically bad at this point.
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True, But i think OU calls the dogs off by halftime forcing them to run Perine and Mixon. Like you said, this is already a terrible defense so this could get out of hand pretty quickly
 
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http://www.campusrush.com/charlie-strong-texas-longhorns-struggles-1394976670.html

OPPOSING COACHES REVEAL REAL PROBLEM WITH TEXAS: LACK OF TALENT, SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT
BY THAYER EVANS AND PETE THAMEL

Speculation about Charlie Strong's future at Texas has intensified with his team's woes, but Strong won't blame his predecessor. "I never will ever say it was Mack Brown's fault," Strong told reporters Monday. "It wasn't his fault. It is on me."

But numerous coaches who have faced Texas this season and are familiar with the Longhorns aren't as diplomatic about Strong's 1–4 start entering Saturday's game against No. 10 Oklahoma in Dallas. They point the finger at Brown and his former staff for the lack of talented upperclassmen and an attitude of entitlement that's resulted in public clashes with younger players recruited by Strong.

"In two years, Charlie could not have f----- that place up," a coach tells The Inside Read. "It was already f---- up before."

The latter was clear by the time Brown's 16-year tenure at Texas had puttered to mediocrity when he left at the end of the 2013 season. The Longhorns were never the same after their loss to Alabama in the 2009 national championship game and declined with every additional year Brown was allowed to stay.

"Mack knew the s--- going on, he just didn't want to own up to it," another coach says. "He knows what he left."

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