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SG Jon Diebler (2nd-Most Big Ten career 3-Pointers, Butler Recruiting Director)

Can anyone explain why we don't try to get Diebler more outside shots during the majority of the game? There has been a trend away from using him until the very end when we need catch-up points. I don't remember seeing this happen earlier in the season or in the previous three seasons for that matter. Diebler's role in keeping the defenses honest is critical to our ultimate goals.
 
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JohnnyCockfight;1873978; said:
Can anyone explain why we don't try to get Diebler more outside shots during the majority of the game? There has been a trend away from using him until the very end when we need catch-up points. I don't remember seeing this happen earlier in the season or in the previous three seasons for that matter. Diebler's role in keeping the defenses honest is critical to our ultimate goals.
My only answer to that question is that Jon is a very unselfish player and I think a while he probably could take more shots I think he realizes there are guys on the floor who could get better shots. Plus, he is a much better standstill shooter then a stop and pop shooter which sometimes can limit the number of shots he will take. Another factor might be that he shot so much in high school that his arm might be wearing down:biggrin2:

BuckeyefromPitt;1873979; said:
He only needs 12 and is averaging just under 2.8 3-pointers per game this season. If he keeps that pace he should be fine to break the record during the regular season. If he does stumble, doesn't the postseason count?
I think you are correct that if he doesn't make it during the regular season his postseason threes would add to the total.
 
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Honestly, it seems to me that Diebler has been very inactive on the offensive side for the last few games, and I don't mean just not taking/getting as many shot opportunities. I forget which game it was that I came out and said I was starting to wonder why Diebler was just standing in the corner on the offensive end almost the entire game, but I've noticed it continue to happen, though not as much. He's started moving around a bit more, but I still find him camped out in the corner of the TV screen more often than not it seems.

Maybe I'm just starting to notice because of a game where we started shooting a little less than stellar from the arc (a trend that has seemed to continue the last few games), and Diebler had always been a major part of our 3 point threat. But I've never noticed it pointed out before, and I remember seeing him running around the top of the key earlier in the season. I'm not sure what's up, but it bugs the hell out of me to see him consistently camped out in the corner, because I find it very hard to believe that Matta isn't trying to work him into the offensive cycles.


I definitely hope to see him break the record, because it means he's getting involved on the offensive end like he hasn't the last few games. Yes, I realize he's popped one or two shots at key points in the last few games, but I don't see him moving around, getting into the offense and getting his own shots like he used to just a few weeks ago. It drives me nuts to not see him with the ball or trying to find the open spot for a shot. It also seems like Sully's production from post-feeds hasn't been as high...given the graphic earlier in this thread, maybe, just maybe there's a correlation.
 
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4 home games & 2 away for Jon to get 11 more. I think he's in good shape......especially since I think he's going to go off in the last game of the regular season. (home vs. Bucky) :evil:
 
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I have actually noticed him pretty open on several occasions, and the others just not looking to pass to him. Perhaps with Buford handling the ball the more so than others, but on a lot of those occasions, Buford drills a ridiculous shot himself. I just think shooters need to shoot, have the ball in their hands, so the ball isn't foreign-feeling or don't have cold hands when they are asked to make a clutch 3 at the end. Anyone who has played a lot of basketball will understand this. It even happened during the game where he got the record for 3s in one game - I'm not saying he didn't get a lot of shots in that game, but there is a large stretch after halftime where he is open and isn't getting the ball, and he went into halftime on fire, obviously.

I think in the Wisconsin game, Diebs went 1-3 from behind the arc, the last two of which, the ones he missed, occurred at the end of the game.
 
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I think you all are right. 1. He's been planted in one spot a lot more 2. The team hasn't passed as well (in part because defenses are playing us different of late) and the passes arent crisp/on target. 3. He hasn't been letting it fly. All in all I think its a non-issue. Just a normal seasonal cycle. In one of the next two games he'll probably go for 18. :tongue2:
 
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Updated after tonight's game against Sparty:


Big Ten career 3-point leaders

1. 332 - Pete Lisicky, Penn State 1994-98
2T. 331 - Jon Diebler, Ohio State 2008-present
2T. 331 - Shawn Respert, Michigan State 1991-95
4. 327 - Cory Bradford, Illinois 1998-2002
5. 320 - Craig Moore, Northwestern 2006-09

If he gets 2 bombs this weekend against Purdue, he'll have the official record.
 
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Jon Diebler one 3 from Big Ten record
Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Sometime during Sunday's big game at No. 11 Purdue, Ohio State shooting guard Jon Diebler will catch a pass, set his feet, coil and release a shot at the top of his jump.

Just like he has maybe 100,000 times going on a million, in gyms all over the country.

Only this time it just may be the 3-pointer that sets the Big Ten record.

The gangly 6-foot-6 senior enters the Buckeyes' game against the Boilermakers with 331 3-pointers made, one behind Penn State's Pete Lisicky (1994-98).

No wonder some call him "3bler."

But it's not as if Diebler ever imagined he'd be the one to do it -- or that it was ever in his sights.

"It will be kind of cool if it does happen," he said. "I'm sure it will be something I look back on when I'm older, but right now it's not something I think about. I'm just worried about winning games. That's our team's mentality."

The Buckeyes (No. 3 ESPN/USA Today, No. 2 AP) are having a banner season. A huge reason is Diebler, a marksman from the perimeter who keeps teams from surrounding post player Jared Sullinger or blanketing fellow shooters William Buford and David Lighty.

Diebler is the Buckeyes' fourth-leading scorer at 11.1 points a game while playing almost 35 minutes a night. He's shooting 48 percent from the field -- and 48 percent on 3-pointers. He ranks fifth in the nation in accuracy behind the arc. That, in itself, is remarkable considering that in his freshman season he shot only 29 percent on 3-pointers.

Coach Thad Matta was asked about Diebler setting the conference mark.

"When he does," he said, laughing, "I'll probably say it could have happened a year ago if he had shot well as a freshman."

Then he turned serious.

"No, I've always said this about Jon. When you coach players and you see how hard they work -- even when they're working hard and you're not watching -- you want those guys to be rewarded. If and when that [record] happens, I'll be as excited as ever because I know what he's done, what he's put in to get that."

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6133370
 
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Diebler forcing defenses to adjust
Sunday, February 27, 2011
By Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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Neal C. Lauron | Dispatch
Ohio State's Jon Diebler, left, has added another dimension to his game.

With eight minutes left in the game Tuesday and Ohio State trying to build on its 10-point lead against Illinois, the Buckeyes had a chance to do it the quickest way they know.

With a Jon Diebler three-pointer.

David Lighty dribbled off a screen and into the key, saw three Illini - one of them Diebler's defender - begin to converge on him and bounced a perfect pass to Diebler cutting behind the arc to the right corner, in front of the Ohio State bench.

When Diebler caught it at waist level, everything was perfect for him to add another three to his Big Ten career record. He was open, his hands were in shooting position, his knees were flexed and his feet were set.

And then he did something no one expected - in particular teammate William Buford, who already had stood out of his chair on the sideline with both arms raised.

With his defender rushing out at him, Diebler drove by him along the baseline, attempted a layup and drew a foul. As he picked himself off the floor and walked to the free throw line, Lighty smiled and said something to him probably not much different than what he said Friday as the team reviewed video of the play.

"Dave turned around started laughing and kind of gave me a look like, 'What are you doing?'" Diebler said yesterday.

Coach Thad Matta might have been thinking the same thing.

"For three straight years, that ball would have been shot," he said. "He ended up getting fouled and made both free throws."

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http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...ebler-forcing-defenses-to-adjust.html?sid=101
 
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