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Second Best Scorer Rides the Pine all Year

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rls321321;2294695; said:
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I am trying to get L. Ross's email so i can tell him to transfer. Matta will never play him. I want to to see this huge talent on thr floor where he belongs
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Quick to the Rumor Mill, Ross to transfer due to some random email from some random guy!
 
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The idiocy in your statement is that you're comparing my statement about what Matta's shortcoming is yet you compare that winning 4 BTT in 8 years. While Thad is doing a marvelous job and is undoubtedly the 2nd best coach in OSU history, he is not getting us over the hump.

I'm talking about how he can improve his team........you're talking about how much better his teams are than Eldon Miller's or others''. That's not logical.

OSU has lost to a underdog every year in the tourney except possibly the title game vs UF. While its flattering that Thad has OSU in that great position, its also a bit concerning because the sample size isn't small.

I still think Thad is going to win one. But it's going to be because he improves his work.......perhaps in ways that some message board posters suggest, perhaps in other ways. And I have no belief that he listens to message board or that he doesn't know more than I could ever hope to. But it's a fact that he's not perfect.

Thad has his work cut out for him next year and the year after:
1. Loses DT and Ravenal
2. Has very little coming in compared to what he's used to getting
3. The B1G is only getting tougher





DZ83CK;2294817; said:
Newsflash Davey, virtually every team in college basketball loses their last games of the year. Not sure if you realize it, but only one team wins the NC in any given year. This isn't football where half of the top-10 teams can win their last game of the year.

And as for Matta not taking his teams as far as the talent gets them, that's just ridiculous. How many times has OSU won 4 Big Ten basketball titles in a 6 year span? What were they supposed to do, win 6 in a row? Go undefeated in the Big Ten? The tournament is always different every year, it doesn't exist in a vaccuum where the regions are equally balanced in terms of difficulty and teams should go to the F4 just because they have one of the best teams they have had. Matta was unlucky that Florida was returning their entire starting 5 from a team that won the NC the prior season, or else he would probably have an NC already - but that's how it is in college basketball, some years the teams at the top of the sport are better than others. Florida had 3 lottery picks. Matta just took an OSU team with one draft pick to the F4, Izzo took a team with a #1 seed and one draft pick (who won Big Ten POY over Sully) to the S16 - obviously Izzo doesn't take his talent to where he's supposed to in the tournament, right? Coach K is the winningest coach in college basketball, but his #2 seed Duke lost to #15 seed Lehigh last year - clearly Matta is so uniquely flawed because he had a year where his team didn't go as far as people expected.

Davey, the real idiocy in your statement that Matta is flawed because he doesn't take his talent as far as they're supposed to go or "only" takes them as far as he should is that EVERY coach in college basketball that is around for more than a year has disappointing years and teams that disappoint in the tournament - that is not a unique flaw or legitimately something to criticize Coach Matta in particular about because you can make the exact same argument against any coach in the entire sport. It is interesting how you frame your argument to rag on Matta, because I guess it's much harder to argue against Matta if you shift the argument away from the negative aspect and compare accomplishments. If you had considered the accomplishments a coach's teams have had and where those accomplishments stack up against his peers over a similar time period, and used that as the main factor in your evaluation of coaches, you would understand that your arguments don't really have any weight behind them. EVERY coach loses games. EVERY coach fails to get his team to the F4 more often than not. NOBODY roots for their team to "go as far as their talent" or "go farther than their talent," they root for their teams to achieve big things like go to the F4 and win conference titles, which is what Matta's teams have done repeatedly. Get a grip on reality, Davey.

Not playing Ross does have benefits on D, but not playing Ross does have a positive effect on the offensive side in the sense that this OSU team has shown it can be turnover-prone (especially when not having Craft and Scott out there together), and Ross is the most turnover-prone player on the team. He has been just as much of a non-entity on offense at times as Smith and Thompson.

The real problem with this team isn't the lack of big minutes for Ross, it's not having a very good big man. If Sully were still on the team they would have won at least 3 more games than what they have at this point, even with Ross playing as little as he has or less. It is an enormous drop-off from Sully to Rav/Amir.
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DaveyBoy;2294879; said:
That explains a lot. Your position is that the coaches never wrong. Ow is that realistic?
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You're just ticking me off at this point. Please feel free to point out where I said the coaches are always right. I said I'd defer to them because they have a lot more information than I do in this situation.

Now kindly stop trying to put words in my mouth and read and comprehend what I post.

This thread has gone beyond stupid. Time to put it in the trash where it belongs.
 
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The only question I have is that by all accounts Ross has been dominant in practice and offseason workouts. (Those are from former and current pros and Buckeyes)

What has happened since school started to make Ross lose his edge? My opinion would be that is has a lot to do with confidence. He has to know everyone has his back regardless of making some bad plays. All players need that at every level. If you are afraid of being pulled, you can't play loose. Proven fact.

Regardless, its not just another scorer that is holding these Buckeyes back, they just tend to go brain dead far too often on both ends of the court. Thats the only thing keeping them from winning these big games. Just look at the scUM game and see how well they were playing. They just have to find the switch and keep it turned on.
 
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Bestbuck36;2295192; said:
The only question I have is that by all accounts Ross has been dominant in practice and offseason workouts. (Those are from former and current pros and Buckeyes)

What has happened since school started to make Ross lose his edge? My opinion would be that is has a lot to do with confidence. He has to know everyone has his back regardless of making some bad plays. All players need that at every level. If you are afraid of being pulled, you can't play loose. Proven fact.

Regardless, its not just another scorer that is holding these Buckeyes back, they just tend to go brain dead far too often on both ends of the court. Thats the only thing keeping them from winning these big games. Just look at the scUM game and see how well they were playing. They just have to find the switch and keep it turned on.
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Ross is Bam Childress
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
The only question I have is that by all accounts Ross has been dominant in practice and offseason workouts. (Those are from former and current pros and Buckeyes)

What has happened since school started to make Ross lose his edge? My opinion would be that is has a lot to do with confidence. He has to know everyone has his back regardless of making some bad plays. All players need that at every level. If you are afraid of being pulled, you can't play loose. Proven fact.

Regardless, its not just another scorer that is holding these Buckeyes back, they just tend to go brain dead far too often on both ends of the court. Thats the only thing keeping them from winning these big games. Just look at the scUM game and see how well they were playing. They just have to find the switch and keep it turned on.
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I think I posted this in his thread a couple months ago but I can remember back in the 90s when they used to talk about how great Jimmie Ratliff was playing in the Worthington Summer League and when the real basketball season began you never saw much of him on the court. Those leagues are all offense and no defense and when I say no defense that really sums it up. In those leagues and workouts that much attention is given to defense so a guy who can score will score but that's about it.
 
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LitlBuck;2295424; said:
I think I posted this in his thread a couple months ago but I can remember back in the 90s when they used to talk about how great Jimmie Ratliff was playing in the Worthington Summer League and when the real basketball season began you never saw much of him on the court. Those leagues are all offense and no defense and when I say no defense that really sums it up. In those leagues and workouts that much attention is given to defense so a guy who can score will score but that's about it.
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Those leagues also tend to be strictly up and down the floor basketball. Perhaps Ross just struggles in half court sets. Part of the reason for his lack of minutes may be that he doesn't fully grasp the offensive sets.
 
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For everyone that jumped down the original poster's throat, Matta seems to show some admission to the fact LQR needs minutes.

Call-in show last night via Bob Baptist's twitter

"No question he has to play more minutes for us because he can score the ball. I think Q is starting to understand the importance of (defense). We'll see him more on the floor."
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OHSportsFan;2295491; said:
For everyone that jumped down the original poster's throat, Matta seems to show some admission to the fact LQR needs minutes.
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He wasn't reamed for saying Ross needs minutes. He was reamed for not being tressel like
 
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