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Sean Taylor (R.I.P.)

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Several have been right to post that this is not a time to determine if Taylor was a thug/is a thug...

But what does stick in my mind is that during the reign of coaches at the U, beginning with Schenelleberger and up through Coker, everytime the cameras were trained on the Miami sidelines you saw a bunch of guys with fifty pounds of bling-bling around their neck. Who were they? What was their connection to the university or the football program? During that same time the players behavior was unchecked... taunting, flaming and pushing the limits on celebrations were par for the course, any idea of sportsmanship and respect for the opponent was shoved aside.

Is there a correlation between how you learn to play the game, who you are encouraged to associate with and how long it takes you to mature and grow out of such associations? I don't know, but my guess is 'yes.'
 
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Sean Taylor and Sports Behavior

Old age kicking in here perhaps... But Sean Taylor's death seems to me a good time to talk about what I believe has occurred over the last forty years in sports.

It seems to me that the sense of decorum, of how you played and reacted in the game, to the game, has eroded into something like the outrageous mugging you see on World Wrestling Federation. The behavior of individuals and teams has degraded to the extent that the game itself sometimes seems secondary. The play is not enough anymore, you must stomp, strut, bray at the stands, pound your chest, cross your throat... guys recover a football late in a 35 - 0 rout and put on a demonstration worthy of winning the World Series, someone makes a play he's expected to make and we get two minutes of celebration before he, and his teammates, get back to business again. It's not enough to hit a home run and touch all four bases, no, you have to stand to the side and admire your work and then make a royal procession around the diamond. It's not enough to slam dunk, you must then flex and strut for the camera, even though your job is to get back and play defense... work can wait.

In my way of thinking it's bad theatre, but more than that, I think it's advocating that such behavior is not only accepted, but applauded. I feel as though the entire idea of respecting others, displaying sportsmanship and knowing when and how to celebrate has gotten out of hand.

Carl Kramer, the basketball coach at Moeller High School, tells me that "how to talk trash" is taught at some basketball camps. Imagine that. Junior and senior high kids taught to belittle, taunt, demean their opponents. But then I realize that I see it acted out in every game I watch on TV... and encouraged by cameras that stay on the boasting player long after the play is over.

I don't think it's much of a stretch to see that the behavior exhibited, and accepted as appropriate on the field carries over to children in their play... or fans in their sense of the right to humiliate the fans of opposing teams.

I suspect that the level of violent language and taunting that goes on on the field also carries over to the everyday life of the players. It's hard to turn that kind of behavior on and off. This is for the filed of play, this is for home and the rest of my life. The fact that so little has been done to discourage such behavior convinces players and the public in general to accept it, even embrace and admire it.

So, if you life in a life of such violent talk and provocative gestures, are you not surrounding yourself with that kind of energy? Are you not attracting people with the same outlook on life? Are you not inviting violence into your own world?

Perhaps as Sean's family and friends mourn his loss, it is time to think of how "we" trained him to behave, how "we" rewarded his showboating and taunting and ponder if "we" contributed in some way to his violent end.
 
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he wasint charged on those...And from what im counting theres only TWO off field issues that this guy had..And he's called a THUG..smh..But now you know why athletes carry guns, Maybe if he was allowed to he woulda picked it up instead of a knife and could have survived instead of laying in a autopsy room somewhere.


everytime the cameras were trained on the Miami sidelines you saw a bunch of guys with fifty pounds of bling-bling around their neck.
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bling bling dont make you a thug...WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THUGS ARE???
 
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O Nasty;1009611; said:
he wasint charged on those...And from what im counting theres only TWO off field issues that this guy had..And he's called a THUG..smh..But now you know why athletes carry guns, Maybe if he was allowed to he woulda picked it up instead of a knife and could have survived instead of laying in a autopsy room somewhere.

bling bling dont make you a thug...WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THUGS ARE???
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what about bad English??
 
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O Nasty;1009611; said:
he wasint charged on those...And from what im counting theres only TWO off field issues that this guy had..And he's called a THUG..smh..But now you know why athletes carry guns, Maybe if he was allowed to he woulda picked it up instead of a knife and could have survived instead of laying in a autopsy room somewhere.




bling bling dont make you a thug...WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THUGS ARE???
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maybe if taylor hadn't gathered up a posse and pistol-whipped some guy over an ATV, he wouldn't have been charged with felony assault and he wouldn't have lost his right to own a gun.
 
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O Nasty;1009611; said:
bling bling dont make you a thug...WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THUGS ARE???
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But a true OG looks like this:

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Word to your mother
 
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O Nasty;1009691; said:
nopenotthatethierfaggot.......
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I think you have a point about the thug label...I really do. I'm not sure where that label applies in the Taylor case...he may have been, he might not have been. Dunno. Don't care. However, I think you have a valid broad theme that is trying to squeeze into a specific example that possibly cannot support your thoughts....

...but I do find it ironic and hypocritical to crusade against the garbage of one label by throwing out another label also recognized as a slur.

You can tread water without flailing.
 
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O Nasty;1009611; said:
bling bling dont make you a thug...WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THUGS ARE???
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I didn't say they were thugs. You did. Read the post. I asked what they were doing there. On the other hand, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck there's a damn good chance it is a duck.

As my old friend Bob Dylan pointed out, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows..."
 
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osugrad21;1009715; said:
I think you have a point about the thug label...I really do. I'm not sure where that label applies in the Taylor case...he may have been, he might not have been. Dunno. Don't care. However, I think you have a valid broad theme that is trying to squeeze into a specific example that possibly cannot support your thoughts....

...but I do find it ironic and hypocritical to crusade against the garbage of one label by throwing out another label also recognized as a slur.

You can tread water without flailing.
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I responded to a ignorant comment with a ignorant comment myself.

Oh well
 
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tsteele316;1009887; said:
nothing in my post above was ignorant, it was totally factual. you threw out a blanket "idiot" statement. grow up and try again.
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To say somebody is a THUG because he had TWO off field issues is stupid. You and even the media know very very little about the man. Do thugs go to one of the best prep schools in Miami. I don't know about his early life but im pretty sure he didn't live in the hood, Having a father cheif of police. It's just fucking stupid for people on here and in the media basically saying "Oh well he had it coming" because of a checkerd past.TWO THINGS..smh

and the whole ****** thing wasint directed to you

thank you and try again *snaps fingers*

lol. smh
 
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