S Kurt Coleman (All B1G, All-American)

[Ohiensis]

If somebody for the Illini had hit Pryor like that, how many of us would have been screaming for a suspension?

Not me.

I do think that Coleman was in violation of the letter of the law, except for the "targeting a defenseless player" part. From watching the replay, it is unclear to me whether the player was down when Coleman launched into his hit. It is definitely a 15 yard personal foul, but to me this should not be treated the same as throwing an uppercut.

 

[bkochmc]

I'm with Tressel and Smith on this, the suspension is 'unjustified'. Taking away a game from a senior the Big Ten Conference should be ashamed of themselves. If it was so bad he should have been ejected.

With suspensions like this, don't complain later on when players give up or let up on plays because they are afraid of getting a suspension. Nice work Big Ten A-Holes. Why do I suspect if Penn State or Michigan was Ohio States next game more people would be against this suspension?

FIFY... the Big Ten Conference suspended Coleman, not the NCAA. True, the rule is in the NCAA book but they leave it to the individual conferences on how to interpret the rule. The decision falls squarely on the shoulders of Jim Delaney, for better or for worse depending on your view point.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

The decisions are up to each conference. This ruling sucks, but I'm glad the Big Ten has the integrity to enforce the rules on high profile players. I don't think we'll be able to expect the same in other conferences across college football.

Sucks that this had to happen to one of the good guys, for sure. But I agree with what you're saying. To be the best... to have pride in your team and your conference, sometimes it means holding yourself to a higher standard.

 

[BuckeyeFan 52]

Sucks that this had to happen to one of the good guys, for sure. But I agree with what you're saying. To be the best... to have pride in your team and your conference, sometimes it means holding yourself to a higher standard.

It is what it is, Coleman made a mistake, for sure, and the coaching staff recoginized that immediately and took him out of the game. A personal foul? No question......suspension worthy? Maybe not, but it is what it is. Kurt Coleman is a well-coached football player and he know's he made a mistake.

The positive is that it gives guys like Jermale Hines and Orhian Johnson an opportunity to get some PT.

I think the Big Ten should be a little more cautious before rapidly throwing out questionable suspensions to their "bread winning" universities. I understand their are rules that are to be followed, but the Big Ten may need to be a little more selective going forward. I think OSU's public disagreement with the suspension is just a professional way of saying, "Be careful" to Mr. Delaney and Co.

 

[Cincinnatibuck]

I think the Big Ten Office just went down the path of no return. What's next, does a chop block penalty earn you a suspension? You could make a case that it's pre-meditated and could cause injury. What about twisting of the helmet versus just grabbing the facemask? Will offensive players now get a penalty and suspension for ducking and causing a helmet to helmet hit? The reason you have personal foul penalties is because of the danger of injuring a player, so does all personal fouls get a one game suspension. Football players are all going to be wearing flags before you know it.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I don't have a problem with the suspension, as long as it is enforced each and every time such a hit happens.

Also, I do have a problem with the idea that a late hit is equally as bad as throwing a punch.

I think the Big Ten should be a little more cautious before rapidly throwing out questionable suspensions to their "bread winning" universities. I understand their are rules that are to be followed, but the Big Ten may need to be a little more selective going forward. I think OSU's public disagreement with the suspension is just a professional way of saying, "Be careful" to Mr. Delaney and Co.

Whether or not the player's team is a "bread winning" team should not be factored into the equation in determining whether or not a player should be suspended, IMO.

 

[Tlangs]

I think the Big Ten Office just went down the path of no return. What's next, does a chop block penalty earn you a suspension? You could make a case that it's pre-meditated and could cause injury. What about twisting of the helmet versus just grabbing the facemask? Will offensive players now get a penalty and suspension for ducking and causing a helmet to helmet hit? The reason you have personal foul penalties is because of the danger of injuring a player, so does all personal fouls get a one game suspension. Football players are all going to be wearing flags before you know it.

indeed....suspensions should be reserved for non-football related activity that takes place on the field. Coleman hit a guy late...the offensive player had the ball, he was down for a split second. there were countless "pile jumpers" all weekend in the big ten. I don't think any of them got suspended.

I have a sneaky suspicion that there are going to be some major issues with a key suspension down the line for several teams in the big ten.

 

[Frohlich]

Look at page 1 of this thread (Kurt Coleman) and he is wearing a green shirt and the word "gang" can clearly be seen on his shirt. We should have seen this kind of thug action coming. :tongue2:

 

[Rookie]

I will say the commentators remarks did not help. They were screaming for a suspension in the booth. It was annoying and it sounded like they would of done anything to dismantle the win for Ohio State. From screaming for a suspension on a late hit to arguing with Tressel's decision to keep Pryor in for majority of the 4th quarter.

Another reason why I love the mute button.

The hit was not necessary, but a suspension is a bit ridiculous. Is every late hit from now on going to necessitate a suspension?

 

[cincibuck]

Frankly, before the re-plays, before the announcers, my first thought was suspension. It was a late hit against a helpless player and it was a helmet-to-helmet hit.

Helmet-to-helmet is linked to the concussion issue, an issue of growing concern as the real consequences of having your bell rung are being discovered. Since schools (and especially the pros) seem unable or unwilling to force players to use properly fitted headgear, (Helmets on the ground should be a rare event if the helmets are properly fitted) helmet-to-helmet hits will -- make that 'need to be' -- strictly enforced.

Was the suspension called for? Go back and watch the Crable hit on Troy Smith in the 06 game. In today's world Crable would have been suspended for that number. Next, watch the hit on Tebow, the defensive end hits him with helmet down, helmet-to-chin. That's dangerous technique for both the person being tackled and the tackler, the kind of hit that can leave either with a serious, if not fatal, neck injury.

Spearing with the helmet, head down, not up, is not supposed to be coached, yet I see it so often, especially in the pros, that I have to believe that it is. It's dangerous and it should be called much more often.

 

[Onebuckfan]

In today's "enlightened" world it is worthy of a suspension. In 2002 it was the Jack Tatum award winner..football is a dangerous sport. Protect yourself on the field. Also one comment..I didn't think the sack on Tebow was a bad play..that hit didnt cause the concussion..

 

[dragurd]

Except the hd replay shows it wasn't helmet to helmet thus the bug-tens premise for suspending him is wrong. It's also a horrible precedent to set now every time there is a late hit people will be crying for a suspension.

 

[WoodyWorshiper]

I'd like to add one thing here, and it's why "BUCKEYEPLANET" is by far and away the best place that any human could ever go to discuss TOSU football.

This is a crappy subject to have to "discuss" yet "discuss" it what it has been. Folks here have basically voiced "agree" or "disagree" with the suspension. Nobody has condoned or chastized what Kurt did, and the replies here have all been pretty well thought out.

Kudos to all that have replied to this situation. I've made my points and stand by them, yet respect all of those who see it the other way. Again, it goes right back to the top of this post.

And to Kurt, keep doing what you've been doing, CAPTAIN!
We love you and are all behind you 100%!!!!!!!!!!

Peace

 

[NateG]

Worthington on KC hit vid per theozone.net

Ohio State Foottball

 

[OregonBuckeye]

The hit looked bad but I think Kurt should've gotten the benefit of the doubt. He's never had a history of playing dirty.