Rose Bowl: USC 38, Penn St. 24 (Final)

[Wingate1217]

Rivals rips the Big10

Thorns exposed in Rose - College Football - Rivals.com

One of our own has turned against the Big Ten........

Josh Peter
Josh Peter is an award-winning enterprise writer and reporter with 15 years of newspaper experience. He graduated from Northwestern University with a degree in journalism

 

[BUCKYLE]

What's funny about that article is how he likes to throw the B10's bowl record out there as some sort of undeniable proof. Why wasn't the same proof acceptable when our bowl record was much better? Fucking hack.

 

[matcar]

What's funny about that article is how he likes to throw the B10's bowl record out there as some sort of undeniable proof. Why wasn't the same proof acceptable when our bowl record was much better? [censored]ing hack.

What's not funny about the article is that the truth is that the B10 is currently not performing at a high level and everyone knows it.

 

[cincibuck]

you assume the big ten team would want any part of that. I don't think it's any accident that your league ends its season much earlier than anyone else

Oh for Christ's sake, "you can't play football when it's cold out or it might snow..."

It's not about the weather, it's about money making for tourist industries, it's about the tradition that December games have to be played in the sunbelt.

BULL SHIT!

Tthis past week there were bowl games played in half empty stadiums in sunbelt cities when the games involved 6 win teams. You don't need a full house to have a bowl game.

Further, the NFL has played football in December and January, to packed houses, in cities throughout the west, midwest and east. Guess what? You can play football in cold and snow just as you can in rain and fog.

What might happen is that USC might have to win an NC in some town other than LA, someplace east of Denver and north of the Ohio River, something they've only managed once in their long and storied history.

And don't hand me any horseshit about, "each school got the same amount of tickets." It's not parity and you know it. 30 to 40K tickets to the two schools and the rest go to local businesses and individuals.

It's all about equity, sauce for the goose and the gander. If you're going to use the bowls to establish end of the year rankings, start of the next year rankings, conference comparisons and the NC, then dammit, spread the games out. Give every region their shot at an NC game.

 

[BUCKYLE]

What's not funny about the article is that the truth is that the B10 is currently not performing at a high level and everyone knows it.

I never claimed the B10 was performing at a high level this year. What pisses me off is that when as a conference, we go 4-2 in bowls, it doesn't matter because tOSU got beat in the NC game...yet, when the B10 shits the bed, like this year, the bowl record is put on a fucking pike and paraded thru town as some sort of hard evidence of our inferiority. If a 1-5 bowl record is concrete evidence of suck, then a 4-2 record should be concrete evidence of equality with other conferences, at least.

 

[BB73]

It means Utah is going to get their asses handed to them.

QFF

 

[Boilers Fan]

What fan wants to travel to 0 degrees to watch a game? Like it has been said many times, it's about money. Just like the Super Bowl being played in Detrioit a couple of years ago - no one wanted to go. People want to enjoy themselves when they spend big $ to go to a bowl game. Not freeze their butt off and be miserable.

Any true fan would travel to watch their team play in these conditions. Did you not watch last years NFC Championship? It was -15 out there. I surely hope fans out West only go watch their teams play when it is a certain temperature.

Don't really understand the Detroit comment either. It is still the Super Bowl...it is going to sell out. And the game was played indoors so weather was not a factor.

We don't have to the guns to stick around with SC's athletes so let's change the venue where field conditions would neutralize SC's athletic superiority. Genius.

This was not the rationale for the suggestion.

 

[reagdog]

Any true fan would travel to watch their team play in these conditions. Did you not watch last years NFC Championship? It was -15 out there. I surely hope fans out West only go watch their teams play when it is a certain temperature.

Don't really understand the Detroit comment either. It is still the Super Bowl...it is going to sell out. And the game was played indoors so weather was not a factor.



This was not the rationale for the suggestion.

I definitely think FEWER true fans would travel to a very cold place to watch their team play. MORE true fans would travel to a nice weather location to watch their team play. You don't think weather has an impact on whether people decide to travel?

The Detroit Super Bowl was probably the least traveled to Super Bowl ever. One of my good friends sister works for the tv network that aired the Super Bowl in Detroit so she gets to go to all the Super Bowls and she got to give out about 100 tickets to friends, customers and family for the game because the tickets weren't highly sought after. When the game was here in Phoenix, she had ZERO tickets to give away because so many people wanted to go that her company couldn't give her any tickets to hand out. Weather and location is a factor.

 

[strohs]

I never claimed the B10 was performing at a high level this year. What pisses me off is that when as a conference, we go 4-2 in bowls, it doesn't matter because tOSU got beat in the NC game...yet, when the B10 shits the bed, like this year, the bowl record is put on a fucking pike and paraded thru town as some sort of hard evidence of our inferiority. If a 1-5 bowl record is concrete evidence of suck, then a 4-2 record should be concrete evidence of equality with other conferences, at least.

When was the last time the big ten went 4-2 in bowl games?
The fact of the matter is that the big ten is down, way down.
You can defend it all you want with numbers and bowl records and whatever fancy stats you can find, but if you watch the games its pretty obvious the conference is way behind some of the others...

 

[Boilers Fan]

I definitely think FEWER true fans would travel to a very cold place to watch their team play. MORE true fans would travel to a nice weather location to watch their team play. You don't think weather has an impact on whether people decide to travel?

The Detroit Super Bowl was probably the least traveled to Super Bowl ever. One of my good friends sister works for the tv network that aired the Super Bowl in Detroit so she gets to go to all the Super Bowls and she got to give out about 100 tickets to friends, customers and family for the game because the tickets weren't highly sought after. When the game was here in Phoenix, she had ZERO tickets to give away because so many people wanted to go that her company couldn't give her any tickets to hand out. Weather and location is a factor.

I'm sure fewer people did go to the City of Detroit for the SB. I was talking about people attending the game, and weather for the game itself. Inside Ford Field, the weather was fine :). But as for number of people going to the city, like someone said earlier, perhaps the bad reputation of the city/violence/deteriorating downtown/lack of entertainment options downtown had a good effect on low attendance. I would agree that the weather did keep away some people, but I don't know if we'll ever know if it was totally due to weather, or other factors that I just listed. Probably a combination of the two.

In a Rose Bowl "alternation" though, this would be one of the advantages for the B10 team (chilly weather). Travel distance would be another, obviously. A fan from Pennsylvania would be much more likely to travel to say Chicago for a cold game than a fan from Los Angeles. The crowd would be pro B10 just like down in Pasadena the crowd is very pro USC.

 

[reagdog]

I'm sure fewer people did go to the City of Detroit for the SB. I was talking about people attending the game, and weather for the game itself. Inside Ford Field, the weather was fine :). But as for number of people going to the city, like someone said earlier, perhaps the bad reputation of the city/violence/deteriorating downtown/lack of entertainment options downtown had a good effect on low attendance. I would agree that the weather did keep away some people, but I don't know if we'll ever know if it was totally due to weather, or other factors that I just listed. Probably a combination of the two.

In a Rose Bowl "alternation" though, this would be one of the advantages for the B10 team (chilly weather). Travel distance would be another, obviously. A fan from Pennsylvania would be much more likely to travel to say Chicago for a cold game than a fan from Los Angeles. The crowd would be pro B10 just like down in Pasadena the crowd is very pro USC.

Agree.

 

[methomps]

the NFC championship game is a true home game. It doesn't depend on fans traveling. In fact, those home teams often try to prevent outside fans from getting tickets by limiting sales to the home state

 

[jwinslow]

you assume the big ten team would want any part of that. I don't think it's any accident that your league ends its season much earlier than anyone else

you're right, the big ten forgot to stage a "championship" (yay colorado, 3-loss FSU, etc) to generate money, thus they finish earlier. You're also right that the big ten would never want any revenue, prestige or fan support for their own bowl game. Excellent argument here.

 

[reagdog]

Just curious. Why does the Big10 seem to finish their seasons earlier than most? I know ASU had 2 games after tOSU's season was over?

 

[jwinslow]

Just curious. Why does the Big10 seem to finish their seasons earlier than most? I know ASU had 2 games after tOSU's season was over?

why do people swim in their pools longer in california and florida than ohio?