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I'll raise you one
(stuck with the 'letters'... ps that's devier on the right)
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Bleed S & G;1067791; said:
He was a Benedictine guy. Watterson has had several encounters with them over the last decade or so.
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Former WVU player rails on RRod
Unbiased source? Hardly, but pretty scathing comments to go with the boulder of salt. Some snippets:
Unbiased source? Hardly, but pretty scathing comments to go with the boulder of salt. Some snippets:
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ytownbuckeye
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this guy should be as fun as carr. Dick Rod. Quit Rod. Bitch Rod. Switch Rod.
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GoodLifeSean
Proud to be born in the best state in the Union!
My only hope is that future recruits are reading stuff like that. To realize that Dick Rod cares about no one but himself. Holding WV ransom last year for a pay raise, face it Michigan keeps coaches, 'Bama will run you out on a rail.
I'm not willing to throw him into the ninth circle of Hell quite yet, we'll leave that for Saban, Petrino, Franchione, Desmond Howard, and the like but he's hanging by a thread up on the eighth level, hoping not to be Satan chow for eternity.
I'm not willing to throw him into the ninth circle of Hell quite yet, we'll leave that for Saban, Petrino, Franchione, Desmond Howard, and the like but he's hanging by a thread up on the eighth level, hoping not to be Satan chow for eternity.
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HailToMichigan
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So, um, Filegate.
I know you guys prefer to believe the worst about RR, but let's think for a minute at what you have to accept in order to believe that RR was in fact shredding stuff he shouldn't have:
Supposedly he was seen by "multiple people" shoving things into a shredder. And not one of them stopped in and said, "Hey, uh, Coach, um, whadya think you're doing?" WVU claims he destroyed seven years' worth of files. Recruting data, contact info, booster info, summer camps, community service, academic records. That would take hours to shred. Supposedly RR shredded all this stuff and multiple people saw him and nobody cared?
RR cleaned out his office Dec. 18 (that's per the Detroit News.) Just after returning from the Fiesta Bowl is when WVU discovered that files that were supposed to be there, weren't. So, uh, nobody stepped into the office between the 18th and January 5th or so? None of the staff went to see if he left anything behind that would be helpful for bowl game preps? The office was closed and locked the whole time? Nobody so much as stored a spare box in it? Either that or RR went back sometime after Dec. 18, and given that he's persona non grata in Morgantown, I'd say he didn't.
I know you guys prefer to believe the worst about RR, but let's think for a minute at what you have to accept in order to believe that RR was in fact shredding stuff he shouldn't have:
Supposedly he was seen by "multiple people" shoving things into a shredder. And not one of them stopped in and said, "Hey, uh, Coach, um, whadya think you're doing?" WVU claims he destroyed seven years' worth of files. Recruting data, contact info, booster info, summer camps, community service, academic records. That would take hours to shred. Supposedly RR shredded all this stuff and multiple people saw him and nobody cared?
RR cleaned out his office Dec. 18 (that's per the Detroit News.) Just after returning from the Fiesta Bowl is when WVU discovered that files that were supposed to be there, weren't. So, uh, nobody stepped into the office between the 18th and January 5th or so? None of the staff went to see if he left anything behind that would be helpful for bowl game preps? The office was closed and locked the whole time? Nobody so much as stored a spare box in it? Either that or RR went back sometime after Dec. 18, and given that he's persona non grata in Morgantown, I'd say he didn't.
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OCBucksFan
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The question is are they using the term shredded to mean he actually destroyed a ton of physical files? Or is it just dumbed down to mean I took a directory on a server and dragged it into the recycle bin? WVU is a pretty big university, humor aside, shouldn't they have all of this stuff stored via document imaging or something of that nature? Who the hell goes "ok, you keep all of the important stuff in your desk, it's safe there." According to the report there's a lot of stuff missing, stuff that doesn't even have to do with football, how the hell does that happen?
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sandgk
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They took the date from the Charleston paper - so it was reported as being that date for RR 12/18) in WVa, later dates implied for the assistants.HailToMichigan;1067900; said:
As I and others have consistently stated though, what was WVU thinking?
This wasn't a friendly departure, elsewhere in business all work product is protected during employee exit. Why not for a state employee at a State Institution?
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HailToMichigan;1067900; said:
It's not just the "filegate" bullshit. Just look back at his actions the past few years. I thought he was a snake at WVU and was, quite honestly, shocked when UM went after him. Questionable recruiting tactics, unfavorable opinions of his personality, etc., etc., etc.. This was all before he became a member of ttun. I really don't think this a good hire and think in the end he's going to leave a large black eye on your guys' program. Dude's a fucking scUMbag. Plain and simple.
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I have to admit I was worried that TSUN would apply what they have learned about Tressel and hire a clone. I never dreamed they would hire the anti-Tressel, but if this stuff is true it sure looks that way.
There are lots of files that it is still easier to work with manually. I don't care if he or his strength and conditioning guy stole the files in order to keep what they had learned while they were at WVa, burned the files, shredded them, whatever.
It sounds to me like WVa should have been more vigilant and that their systems need an overhaul.
However, let's not lose sight of a principle. All of us have the opportunity to steal from the firms where we work. It is not only legally wrong to do so, it is just morally repugnant.
African cultures are high-context cultures, as opposed to American low-context culture. Whereas we say what we mean and mean what we say. In high-context cultures, what isn't said is often more important than what is. So, you learn to listen more closely.
I heard RRs attorney. He did not deny that they removed records. It is very likely that he has left with the intellectual property or proprietary, confidential files of his past employer.
His attorney attempts to create subterfuge by making comments about copies of files. Under just about every NCAA rule possible, student files are confidential property of the University and should not have been removed or destroyed.
HTM, underlings aren't going to ask a coach to stop doing something. It wasn't even clear at the time whether he was still employed at WVa. Supposedly we're talking academic records, grant and financial aid information, and strength and conditioning records--historic stuff that is hardly likely to be reviewed by a coaching staff getting ready for a BCS Bowl when their coach just left them without advance warning.
The man is telling you who he is. All you have to do is listen.
There are lots of files that it is still easier to work with manually. I don't care if he or his strength and conditioning guy stole the files in order to keep what they had learned while they were at WVa, burned the files, shredded them, whatever.
It sounds to me like WVa should have been more vigilant and that their systems need an overhaul.
However, let's not lose sight of a principle. All of us have the opportunity to steal from the firms where we work. It is not only legally wrong to do so, it is just morally repugnant.
African cultures are high-context cultures, as opposed to American low-context culture. Whereas we say what we mean and mean what we say. In high-context cultures, what isn't said is often more important than what is. So, you learn to listen more closely.
I heard RRs attorney. He did not deny that they removed records. It is very likely that he has left with the intellectual property or proprietary, confidential files of his past employer.
His attorney attempts to create subterfuge by making comments about copies of files. Under just about every NCAA rule possible, student files are confidential property of the University and should not have been removed or destroyed.
HTM, underlings aren't going to ask a coach to stop doing something. It wasn't even clear at the time whether he was still employed at WVa. Supposedly we're talking academic records, grant and financial aid information, and strength and conditioning records--historic stuff that is hardly likely to be reviewed by a coaching staff getting ready for a BCS Bowl when their coach just left them without advance warning.
The man is telling you who he is. All you have to do is listen.
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SonOfWoody
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Depending on how this file shredding scandal breaks, I really think this could turn into a "fired before he ever coaches a game" mess like Mike Price.
Dick Rod better watch how cavalier he gets about the whole thing.
Dick Rod better watch how cavalier he gets about the whole thing.
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