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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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Steve19;1068134; said:
I also wonder why that hasn't been forthcoming from WVa, given the attorney statement.

I suppose they might say so long as compliance has access when requested, why would they need them? Sounds like some of the files had little to do with compliance anyway.
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Maybe, but if the news stories are true, wouldn't the compliance office want to know how much scholarship money has been paid to whichever player?

I'm not 100% certain either way, but if WVU had only paper files or had no backups going for whatever electronic files they might have had, they screwed themselves beyond what it appears ShitWad is already doing to them.....
 
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NFBuck;1068239; said:
Man, this is really getting ugly. WVU is coming with all guns blazing. One has to wonder though, why in the blue hell would he use a WVU provided cell phone to conduct UM buisness. Is he really that stupid for fuck's sake?
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this is a guy who kinda forgot to run the ball against Pitt we are talking about here :biggrin:
 
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HTM, I think your image of the football office is a little skewed. It's not as if his coaching office is attached to the locker room. Big time universites have seperate buildings for their offices.

Just becuase he's taken another position at another university, isn't grounds for him to be restrained from the premises. I'm sure he was cleaning and organizing his belongings for several days. Part of that clean-up was probably throwing away files and cleaning house.

Again, I think he probably didn't realize what he was doing, threw a bunch of stuff away the university now wish they have, and is dragging him through the mud because of sour grapes. My guess is a majority of the documents thrown away/destroyed pertains to potential recruits and DRod either doesn't want WVU to make head on his work or he thought he was cleaning out the office. If it's anything like FSU, they probably have a software system to input answers from questionaires and mailings that he could have kept, but wanted paper copies from the filies disposed of.

To say it probably isn't possible/likely that he could destroy/shred papers for 3-4 hours isn't true though. It'd be as simple as rolling their filing cabinet to their paper room, and telling people he's disposing of materials he no longer needs. Depending on the day/time he was doing it, there'd be very few people to question what he was doing.
 
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All of this is stupid. Ignorance and arrogance on both sides. For the most part this is much ado about nothing ... but it IS MUCH ado. So my question:

Why the hell isn't Michigan stepping to the plate with 4 million to put an end to this PR nightmare? I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle (it always does), but at this rate Michigan and RR are letting a Perception take hold and it will linger for years to come. You only have to look as far as MoC to realize that the truth no longer matters to the CFB world in general. OSU fans know that stigma will follow our program for a long time to come. It doesn't matter that our school, staff and program were cleared of wrong doing. We still hear about it when folks want to drag us thru the mud. Michigan and coach RR are about to find out the hard way.
 
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MLive.com: Latest dispute all about the buyout

there's an audio link there to the full piece.

Hickman on WDFN: Latest dispute all about the buyout

by MLive.com Staff
Wednesday January 16, 2008, 4:36 PM

The Charleston Gazette's Dave Hickman, who wrote Tuesday's story about Rich Rodriguez shredding documents before he left West Virginia, said there are about four million reasons for the most recent spat between the two parties.

"The big issue is how or whether this affects the ($4 million) buyout," Hickman told WDFN-AM Detroit. "Rich has apparently made it very clear that he is trying to do everything he can to portray West Virginia in a bad light, as far as that is concerned. By claiming the harassments and death threats to his family and all that kind of thing, which I don't doubt for a minute has some basis in fact. I think it's probably been blown entirely out of proportion for his benefit.

"But then you start looking at stuff like this, and particularly, you go back to him calling recruits such as Terrelle Pryor before he even told his team that he was leaving, or handed in his resignation. These are things that didn't happen in response to anything that has gone on in West Virginia. These are things that happened at the very moment that he was leaving West Virginia, before everything blew up. I mean, he's calling Terrelle Pryor before he resigns. He is apparently shredding these documents, basically, on his way out of town, before anything hit the fan."

cont'd (audio link)...
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3yardsandacloud;1068255; said:
All of this is stupid. Ignorance and arrogance on both sides. For the most part this is much ado about nothing ... but it IS MUCH ado. So my question:

Why the hell isn't Michigan stepping to the plate with 4 million to put an end to this PR nightmare? I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle (it always does), but at this rate Michigan and RR are letting a Perception take hold and it will linger for years to come. You only have to look as far as MoC to realize that the truth no longer matters to the CFB world in general. OSU fans know that stigma will follow our program for a long time to come. It doesn't matter that our school, staff and program were cleared of wrong doing. We still hear about it when folks want to drag us thru the mud. Michigan and coach RR are about to find out the hard way.
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True about the perception part.

But honestly, given the fiasco that the entire hiring process was to begin with, I think the Michigan athletic department has their blinders on....
 
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Michigan better WTFU and do something fast. This perception of RamRod is only going to hurt Michigan in recruiting. Some parents are gonna be turned off by this. I hope the saga continues to go round and round. The more time he has dealing with this the less time he has to spend on coaching.

Tressel already has a fence around Ohio...its getting bigger and bigger. If Michigan doesn't get Pryor and/or tanks next season OSU will be gaining ground on them at an astronomical rate. If we win the conference and go to the championship game again it will only get worse for Michigan.

I hope his ego keeps this thing going for months. The best possible situation is if lawsuits filed...his image will continue to hit rock bottom.
 
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jwinslow;1067867; said:
Former WVU player rails on RRod

Unbiased source? Hardly, but pretty scathing comments to go with the boulder of salt. Some snippets:
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I certainly hope this is true....

If so won't the OSU coaches have fun.....

  1. Thirdly, the Pitt game. obviously D-head played scared?played not to lose. I thought that the Pitt game reminded me of the first half of the Marshall game?His playcalling was terrible and he tends to go into games determined that he assessed an opponents weakness correctly and then if his attack is stifled he just keeps doing it and refuses to adapt his playcalling. Its frustrating to watch. He?s just so stubborn and refuses to admit he might be wrong about something. Like in Marshall, how many times in the 1st half did he throw that stupid jailbreak screen that got shoved right back up his ass. Finally he just let Devine pound the rock and they blew it open. His arrogance is his downfall.
 
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Honeymoon over?

Carty MLive - it's Time For Rodriguez to Apologize and Pay-Up

When the University of Michigan began looking for a new football coach in November, it's safe to say a man the general public ranks with coaching bad boy Nick Saban wouldn't have been high on its list.
Yet comparisons between the carpetbagging Alabama coach and new Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez have been pretty common on talk radio and the Internet over the past few days.
Let's say this up front: Rodriguez is not Saban.
He did not insist again and again that he'd never take the Michigan job, then skulk out of town when millions were put on the table, as Saban did with Alabama when he was coaching the Miami Dolphins. Rodriguez hasn't bolted three straight jobs after short stints, in each case leaving when someone waved more money at him.
That's not to say Rodriguez doesn't deserve some grief.
His damaged reputation is a self-inflicted wound.
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Further transcript piece - Detroit WXYT hosts reporter from Charleston who broke the shredded paper story.

FREE PRESS STAFF AND NEWS SERVICES

Monday night, Dave Hickman of the Charlestown Gazette broke the Rich Rodriguez document shredding story (see the Freep’s story here). Tuesday’s afternoon, Terry Foster and Mike Valenti from WXYT had him on their show to get more information on the story, his take on Rodriguez as a person, and much more.
Below is the transcript from Hickman's portion of the show:
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As a 3rd generation Buckeye fan, I'm not delighting in this in the least. A black mark on TSUN is bad for the conference. We need a strong rival. The conference needs a strong team from TSUN.

I'm hoping they cut their losses here and find a less controversial figure to lead their program.

I can't believe the mess this is becoming.
 
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