brutus2002
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Michigan has less AP NC's than Minnesota...they have no coaches NC's and no BCS championships. That mean that Michigan has never won an undisputed NC!!!
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brutus2002;1447349; said:
If only the BCS was around during 1997 because there would have been no controversy about the title game. Michigan and Nebraska were clearly the two best teams that year and who knows what the outcome would ahve been had they played. 1 little play actually cost Michigan an outright title that year. The famous "kicked" ball for Nebraska against Mizz. It is amazing that 1 play in football can make/break your season.
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jwinslow;1447345; said:
I don't think it's just that.
TSUN frequently hangs their hat on the "winningest program ever" thing. They own that record primarily because of what occurred before 1920.
Without that, they'd still be a top program, one of the top-10 of all time. But they'd be thought of more like Nebraska, Tennessee, or Penn State in terms of their place in college football history - they'd have no convincing argument that they belonged in the top-5 programs of all time.
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zwem;1447375; said:
I remember watching that play on live TV. I was going nuts yelling that it should have been a penalty. Now, eleven and a half years later, the fact that it cost TSUN half a national title (well, that and the Coaches voting Osborne a going-away present) has taken the anger away from me. :tongue2:
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It's nothing compared to a ruling from a replay official that the pylon is an extension of the goal line for purposes of determining if a player catches a ball in the field of play.BB73;1447415; said:
FWIW, I'm still waiting for the final 3 seconds of the 1998 Rose Bowl before I'm willing to crown Michigan with a half title.
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1447422; said:It's nothing compared to a ruling from a replay official that the pylon is an extension of the goal line for purposes of determining if a player catches a ball in the field of play.
FWIW, I'm still waiting for the final 3 seconds of the 1998 Rose Bowl before I'm willing to crown Michigan with a half title.
There was also a pass interference call against Michigan on that drive that was bs.
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Onebuckfan
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I prayed for 40 yrs for scUM to make a hire like this,,yes there is a GOD!!!!
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zwem;1447437; said:
I'm still a little fuzzy on this but hadn't Woodson already signed with and taken money from an agent before this game?
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ant80;1454022; said:
No difference really, either action makes him ineligible and had the NCAA wanted to, they could have made scUM forfeit/vacate all games he played in.
IIRC Woodson testified under oath (during a trial for someone else) that he had signed/taken money from an agent the summer before the '97 season.
Kinda trumps any controversial PI calls in the Rose Bowl if my memory is serving me correctly.
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zwem;1447375; said:
Sort of like the gift INT TD that Stanley Jackson threw to Andre Weathers in The Game that season which provided the margin of victory in a 20-14 game?
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ant80
Think less, feel more.
I remember reading somewhere that the reason scUM wasn't penalized was because the statute of limitations had already run out. I also remember from (somewhere or someone) that he didn't testify that he had taken the money, though I don't know what he testified to. It seems like there is a sense of plausible deniability there.Jaxbuck;1454024; said:
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