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Scoopfan;1441299; said:
Hey, it's not like his standards aren't the same across the board. Slaton's two crucial fumbles cost him...err, nevermind. Still an ass.
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Sportsbuck28
Here comes the BOOM
As time goes on, the Rich Rodriguez experiment continues to remind me of the Bill Callahan era at Nebraska.
Callahan came into one of the nation's most prestigous programs which had for long run the triple option, and proceeded to install a pro-style scheme, in which it took a year or two to aquire and develop the personel neccessary to run the scheme. In the end, it ended up putting up big points and IIRC finished in the top 15 in the nation in his final year at the helm. RR came into a program that was the "Winningest of All-Time" (Nevermind the obvious fact that a damn good amount of those came before the Great Depression), and threw the status quo out the window by changing the predominantly i-formation school into college football's newest candy, the spread offense. His first year certainly was poor as he had no where near the proper personel to run the offense, although he looks to have brought in some semblance of talent to fit the scheme.
But the biggest area of of coincidence I see between the two is the neglect of defense. Under Callahan, Nebraska's once-famed Blackshirt defense became a laughingstock, and IIRC finished the 100's in his final year in addition to giving up 65 to Colorado. In 2008, Michigan had a terrible defense that surrendered 48 points to a lowly Purdue squad relying on a kid who was the backup QB at the beginning of the year, and in addition failed to bring in any name recruits outside of JT Turner and Will Campbell. RR continues to recruit predominantly on the offensive side of the ball and if he continues to neglect the defense like it appears he is doing not even !!!!BARWIS!!! can save him from suffering the same fate that Callahan did.
Callahan came into one of the nation's most prestigous programs which had for long run the triple option, and proceeded to install a pro-style scheme, in which it took a year or two to aquire and develop the personel neccessary to run the scheme. In the end, it ended up putting up big points and IIRC finished in the top 15 in the nation in his final year at the helm. RR came into a program that was the "Winningest of All-Time" (Nevermind the obvious fact that a damn good amount of those came before the Great Depression), and threw the status quo out the window by changing the predominantly i-formation school into college football's newest candy, the spread offense. His first year certainly was poor as he had no where near the proper personel to run the offense, although he looks to have brought in some semblance of talent to fit the scheme.
But the biggest area of of coincidence I see between the two is the neglect of defense. Under Callahan, Nebraska's once-famed Blackshirt defense became a laughingstock, and IIRC finished the 100's in his final year in addition to giving up 65 to Colorado. In 2008, Michigan had a terrible defense that surrendered 48 points to a lowly Purdue squad relying on a kid who was the backup QB at the beginning of the year, and in addition failed to bring in any name recruits outside of JT Turner and Will Campbell. RR continues to recruit predominantly on the offensive side of the ball and if he continues to neglect the defense like it appears he is doing not even !!!!BARWIS!!! can save him from suffering the same fate that Callahan did.
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Sportsbuck28;1446999; said:
Good analogy.
Offensive guru/scheme coach types often neglect defense, as well as pretty much all the fundamentals of a good team, in their Ahabian quest for their white whale(their pet offense). Call it the June Jones syndrome.
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Sportsbuck28;1446999; said:
From 1970-1999 Michigan was third in wins behind Nebraska and Penn.St and second in % behind Nebraska.
Bo Finished in the top 10 in his first 10 seasons at Michigan when he took over in 1969.
In the 70s Michigan won 7 Big Ten Titles. They won 5 in the 80s and 5 in the 90s. Even though Michigan has struggled in the 2000s, they still have won 3 titles.
Michigan hasn't won many national championships in the modern era and I know most people will take shots at Michigan for that. Then again OSU has only won 1 title since the early 70s.
From 1956-2005 Michigan is 5th in winning % despite them having some rough years in the 50s and 60s.
OSU is 2nd only behind Nebraska.
Sorry, but Michigan was good after the Great Depression. They have been good for a long time and are one of the most consistent programs of all time.
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Ttown
WTH is an Illini? Dead goose?
Usually like to give a new coach a few years to see if he is going to work out or not. RR is not the first coach to have a horrendous first year and he won't be the last. It could be smart to lighten up on the funeral arrangements until after the corpse is cold. 
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Sportsbuck28
Here comes the BOOM
When did I say Michigan wasn't good after the Great Depression?zwem;1447292; said:
I said a damn good amount of their wins came before the great depression, 32% of their total amount of wins to be exact, which is a pretty damn good amount. Especially when you consider that Michigan played football for 49 years before the Great Depression, and it's been 80 years since it started (Draw your own conclusion from that one).
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Sportsbuck28;1447296; said:
I'm just saying Michigan has been good from the very beginning. It seems people want to degrade Michigan for dominating football during the early to mid 1900s. It doesn't matter if you start at 1900,1950,1960 or whatever. If you look at wins or % in a decade.....the chances of finding Michigan near the top is a given.
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Sportsbuck28;1447296; said:
It's 40% up until 1940 for Michigan. This might shock you but it's around 33-34% for OSU until 1940. It works both ways.
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