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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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Best Buckeye;1137030; said:
Not the 60's . :( ?
Girls, beer , free love mindset. Fast cars, Harley hogs. Women, beer.
About 1/2 the stupid govt. laws as now, women, love.

Too Bad.
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Vanessa Kensington: Mr. Powers, my job is to acclimatize you to the nineties. You know, a lot's changed since 1967.

Austin Powers: No doubt, love, but as long as people are still having promiscuous sex with many anonymous partners without protection while at the same time experimenting with mind-expanding drugs in a consequence-free environment, I'll be sound as a pound!
 
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Dryden;1137293; said:
Vanessa Kensington: Mr. Powers, my job is to acclimatize you to the nineties. You know, a lot's changed since 1967.

Austin Powers: No doubt, love, but as long as people are still having promiscuous sex with many anonymous partners without protection while at the same time experimenting with mind-expanding drugs in a consequence-free environment, I'll be sound as a pound!
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Thats exactly what the too bad is for :biggrin:.
This generation is what you guys have created.
GO for it .
 
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Welcome to the fish bowl.

I didn't have problems with Henry while at WV

A column by Bob Hertzel in the Times West Virginian of Fairmont, W.Va., blames Chris Henry's off-field problems on a lack of discipline by Rodriguez when he coached West Virginia. Henry, a former WVU receiver who was released last week by the Cincinnati Bengals after his fifth arrest, apparently had problems in Morgantown that went unpunished by the WVU coaching staff.

"Multiple sources within the athletic department and football program say Henry was much worse than his public image," Hertzel wrote, "and that public image was never exactly heroic."

Hertzel added that when Henry drew two personal-foul penalties against Rutgers in 2004 and then flipped off taunting fans as he left the field, he was suspended for a game only because then-WVU president David Hardesty demanded that Rodriguez offer a public form of discipline.

Hertzel also wrote that Henry punched a student while in a food line at West Virginia and that he and fellow receiver Travis Garvin, who is currently in jail after an arrest on an armed robbery charge, were involved in an altercation with an assistant coach before the 2003 Gator Bowl in which the players refused to leave the locker room for a running session. The coach, Steve Bird, was fired after the season.
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Hertzel column
 
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Blade

Defection, missed recruit among UM's Rodriguez woes

By JOE VARDON
BLADE SPORTS WRITER

ANN ARBOR - It has rained all spring on new Michigan football coach Rich Rodriguez, and that's odd considering the Wolverines have been relegated to practicing indoors. But at seemingly every turn during Rodriguez's first spring camp at UM, there has been controversy or bad news waiting for him. As the Wolverines get set for their final intrasquad spring scrimmage today at Saline High School, here's a rundown of the headaches Rodriguez has experienced, in no particular order: ?Perhaps his best, or at least most established returning offensive lineman, Justin Boren, abruptly left the program, citing "eroded" family values. ?Terrelle Pryor, the western Pennsylvania prep star and top quarterback recruit who would fit perfectly into Rodriguez's spread-option offense, chose Ohio State over UM. ?Campus-wide construction forced the team to practice mostly in the university's cramped, outdated field house. Only recently have the Wolverines been able to work outdoors at area high schools. ?At least two Big Ten coaches have publicly questioned
Rodriguez's recruiting ethics since he took over the Wolverines. Purdue's Joe Tiller called him a "guy in a wizard hat selling snake oil," and last week Ohio State's Jim Tressel said the Big Ten gentlemen's agreement in recruiting was applied "only between gentlemen" - which many understood as a jab at Rodriguez. ?And, of course, there's the ongoing legal fight with West Virginia, Rodriguez's former employer, over a $4 million buyout clause the coach is refusing to pay.

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Dispatch

Michael Arace commentary: Michigan's Rodriguez wins, hence the hubbub

Saturday, April 12, 2008 3:11 AM
By Michael Arace


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH




Michigan loyalists can be placed in two camps that will, someday, be rejoined. There are those who lament the retirement of football coach Lloyd Carr, and view Rich Rodriguez as a Machiavellian character, without scruples. These fans will remain smug until Rodriguez begins drumming his Big Ten competition, and then they will cheer.
There are those who see Carr as a dinosaur, and Rodriguez as a Peter the Great figure who will drag an empire into a new century. These fans will cheer Rodriguez until he begins drumming his Big Ten competition, and then they will become smug.
How do we know Rodriguez will be drumming his Big Ten competition? We get it from the best sources -- his peers.



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HailToMichigan;1136555; said:
Yes you are. It's just that it already worked.
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While there may have been some, I did not see this savior-for-the-program status heaped upon JT when he was hired. After he went up to AA his first year and won followed by a NC his second year, did JT earn the right to be "trusted".
 
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Oh8ch;1136926; said:
I see that RR is taking a basing for this quote here and on other OSU boards. That surprises me a bit since I could imagine pretty much those same words coming out of Woody's mouth.

I guess I view RR a bit differently than some. He is a throwback to the Woody-Bear era. You CAN build effective football teams that way - or at least you could with kids of that era. And I don't think that his penchant for hard work or disregard for PC relationship building are what will cause him to ultimately fail. Woody treated his players like dogs on the field. And while he cared deeply for them he did everything to keep that from showing.

IMO RRs issues are character and integrity. Woody turned down raises to help his coaches - he didn't make demands of the University before bailing to greener pastures. Woody was all about the success of the team and the individuals he coached. He thought of himself last.
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As you know, Oh8ch, what Woody said publicly was far and away different than how he treated them privately. That's not to say Woody wasn't of the task-master mind between the lines, but he did love his players off the field. I don't know, I suppose RR could be different behind closed doors than he is in public - just like Woody... but, I highly doubt it. When I read about RR sneaking off to the Children's Hospital every weekend, maybe I'll give him a break on his public personality.

I will say, on the whole stealing recruits angle - I don't have much of a problem with him keeping contact up with a guy who's verballed unless the guy who has verballed says, essentially, "Dude, quit calling me. I'm not coming to Michigan, leave me alone."
 
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Let's set the record straight. Woody yelled at his kids, swore at them, called them names and even gave them attitude adjustments when needed.
However there wasn't anything vicious about it. he was using all of them and more as teaching tools. ,ie. the hat tearing, the wrist watch stomping, the self hitting.
Woody was a teacher and a developer. Everything he did was to bring out the best in each and every one of his players. To make each one of them learn that to excel in football and in life that you had to put out the most extreme effort that you could.
This is why so many could say that they hated him , yet loved him. That they learned his lesson and believed they were better men for it. And that he taught them to be men.
We have to remember that Woody and his asst coaches worked endlessly and tirelessly all year round to achieve that end result. They used to say that the asst's wives had a one month marraige because that is when some of them got to see their husbands. Woody demanded that of his coaches and then outworked them.
All to teach his players. Each game was a school test, to see if his students had learned that weeks lesson and that is why each win was important to him. He wasn't so much interested in winning the game to gain a win in the win column but to his his students get an "A" that week.
Woody went year after year turning down a raise saying he didn't need the money and to give it to his asst coaches.
It's no wonder Woody is my Hero.

So now the big question is, Is RR that type of man? only time will tell in the end.
 
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