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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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I think the speech at halftime did alert me to something that eventually became a reason for respecting him as I do, HTM.

Tressel did not say he was going to beat TSUN that first year. He said that Ohio State fans would be proud of their team again, including in Ann Arbor. At the end of the Cooper era, many fans had come to have less respect for the team, due to disciplinary problems and the way they lost to SC in the bowl.

So, even if some folks remember this as him calling out TSUN, if you go back and listen, he didn't.

The first thing I noticed were words that started to speak of deeply held values. "We'll go and do our best and we'll see if we deserve to be Big Ten champions." "Player X has let his team down and will sit out Y games." We saw a return to discipline.

The second thing I noticed is that he was a consumate coach who remained very cool even when behind in big games. His sense of perspective calmed his team and Ohio State began to believe that they could win big games again.

All of this really speaks to some rather central values that I believe are important in any organization that wants to achieve its goals regularly. Ultimately, when I think badly of RR, it's because I believe those eternal values are unknown to him.
 
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NFBuck;1138598; said:
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Michigan's R2 unit has a bad motivator.
 
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quote from ESPN article "bigten notebook"



"We were pretty generic," Rodriguez said. "Why show your hand? There may be folks here you don't want to see."
ESPN - Rittenberg: Big Ten notebook - College Football



This quote was in response to why he didn't run much option in the spring game. Was he being serious or just screwing around with the media. The guy has limited time to re-design an offense but he doesn't run the new system in the spring game in order to not show his hand...

I guess the truth would make him look bad, could you imagine him saying, "I don't have a quarterback that can run the option, next question please".
 
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BuckeyeInTheBoro;1139934; said:
I honestly didn't think Tressel could look any better... now this study in contrasts comes along and Tressel looks even better.

It's good to be a Buckeye.
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It is almost getting to the point where one can say that the round mound of offensive ingenuity, CW, doesn't look too bad in comparison.
 
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Somebody's gotta do it...

I heard Spielman today making the argument that UM would win about 4 games this season. The consensus is they will finish near .500. Let's look again.

The UM talent pool is not completely drained. They return 45 players this season. (Next year OSU will return about 60). I ran a "star ranking" on that group and they come out to an average of 3.64. Other than OSU and Michigan no team in the Big Ten has achieved that star rating for any given class in the past 5 years - let alone a cumulative rating that high. No team in the Big Ten other than OSU and Michigan have as many 4 and 5 star players. So Michigan will only face two teams on their schedule who have more "talented" players - OSU and ND.

But of course, they are also changing systems and they have no QB. I will give you that. But on the other hand Michigan has been notorious for underachieving - particularly on D. They were soft - and RR agrees. All indications are that this team will outwork anything Lloyd put on the field since at least the time Cooper left. Sol there is room to argue that the 4 star athletes who have been playing like 2 stars will return to their projected level.

And they do have a couple of QBs, they just seem to be mediocre. But nothing can turn a mediocre QB into a serviceable QB faster than practice reps. And those are available. And as strong as they are at RB serviceable may be all they need.

Truth is their biggest liability is lack of depth and experience on the OL - and that will cost them some games. But not 8 games. Not even 6.

I am going on record as saying UM wins at least 8 times this season.


Somebody had to do it .... Devil's advocate that is.


(And for the record, I stand by my position that in the long term RR will fail as HC at UM.)
 
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Truth is their biggest liability is lack of depth and experience on the OL - and that will cost them some games. But not 8 games. Not even 6.
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Due in large part to a pretty cushy schedule this year. Despite the massive turnover UM is experiencing, it also comes at a very opportune time in conference.
And they do have a couple of QBs, they just seem to be mediocre. But nothing can turn a mediocre QB into a serviceable QB faster than practice reps.
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How do you define serviceable? Do you believe their QBs can keep defenses honest this year?
 
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goblue15;1139975; said:
Agree with everything you said except for the last sentence. Rich will win at Michigan!
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More outstanding analysis.

His big years came after Miami, Va Tech and BC all left the conference. That's not coincidence. I'll give him a solid on his bowl record the past couple years, but that came against teams that hadn't seen his offense...and he did it after getting White and Slayton. Look at WVU's schedules during his tenure. Hardly packed with powerhouse opponents. The quality of defenses he'll see in the Big-10 are much different than those Big-East one's he's fed on the past couple years, and if you were paying attention, the ones that were pretty good did a nice job of holding them in check. Look at South Florida, the most talented D in that conference. They owned DickRod. He'll win some games at um, but people expecting similar success to the last three years at wvu are in for a rude awakening. That offense is not all-powerful or unstoppable ven when ran by superstars, and there's much more info out there on it now.
 
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