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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

NastyDogg72;1088420; said:
Sniper I agree with you 100% that it is a game and no sense of percieved disloyalty justifies forgetting what the accepted rules of society are. People who make threats are nothing but cowards themselves. Don't sink to their level, I for one know you are better than them.

But your point gets lost because you generalize an entire state and it's university based upon the improper behavior of a few. I'm sure it was just used as emphasis in order to get your point across but it causes your great points to get lost in irrational insults.

With that, glad to see you are back. You and your info has been missed.

You're right, I apologize for that. But these WVU fuckers are ridiculous and out of control. Move on people, it's over. Rodriguez was great for their program, yet will only be remembered for how he left.

On the same token, what BB said was accurate as well. I don't condone RR's behavior, but I could never condone death threats for a game.

Thanks for the welcome back guys.
 
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Muck;1088454; said:
Is there any actual evidence of said death threats other than the word of the esteemed and unimpeachable Mr. Rodriguez?
Other peculiar details, why were the police not notified, and why were the kids not withdrawn from school? Even if the cops hated RR too, I can't imagine sending my kids into that situation.
 
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jwinslow;1088464; said:
Other peculiar details, why were the police not notified, and why were the kids not withdrawn from school? Even if the cops hated RR too, I can't imagine sending my kids into that situation.

Exactly.

In my experience when somebody is quick to trot out their family on TV and sport tears for the camera...it's a publicity stunt to gain pity in the court of public opinion.

Someone who is truly worried about their family's safety doesn't complain about it to the media.

So you'll have to excuse me if I'm not inclined to take Mr. Rodriguez's word for it.

If you don't like my skepticism...tough nuts.
 
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jwinslow;1088464; said:
Other peculiar details, why were the police not notified, and why were the kids not withdrawn from school? Even if the cops hated RR too, I can't imagine sending my kids into that situation.

I don't remember the article but I do remember reading that they did remove the kids from school after some problems there. This is the first I ever heard of there being death threats towards any of the children though. I'm sure there is a bit of embellishment here, there has been by both parties in this case repeatedly.

Not condoning it by any means but I know this has been reported before and I don't understand why each side continues to bring up old news. Now the children who threatened these children, no matter what those threats entailed, should be punished accordingly.

The time has come to leave whats already done behind and try to end this thing for the betterment of all parties involved. RR is right, it's not fair to the kids that they have to deal with the backlash of a decision they had no say in, so why drag this all on? Do whats best for everyone and bring it to some kind of conclusion.
 
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I did not see the interview but react in the following manner.

First, it is disgusting that anyone would threaten children. However, I see no evidence that anyone did, except for RR's word, which is not something I would accept at face value.

Second, I think that WVa fans are right to be upset. This guy was their hometown hero. He told them of his undying commitment and desire to build a NC calibre team. He said the new contract was everything he needed and publicly said the $4 million clause was living proof of his commitment. He recruited players and told them, as he told TSUN recruits this year, that he would be there to personally develop them into the pros they deserved to be.

Then, when he got an offer at a more storied school, he dumped them prior to a BCS bowl game without a thought, bad-mouthed the school on the way out the door, tried to steal a prized recruit, and then refused to pay. How many of his players won national awards? How many were drafted? How many will be?

I don't know what you seen in the encyclopaedia when you look up "dishonest creep" but his picture appears in mine.

Third, it is in his interest to put on a public display of tears. Hell, it worked twice for Hillary Clinton. Show a bit of emotion, tug at their heart stings. BS. PR of the worst kind. All of it lacking in a basic dishonesty one has witnessed his entire career.

Not just six months ago, he was mouthing the same crap at WVa, now suddenly he makes a switch and is pure TSUN through and through? What his players, TSUN fans, prospective recruits need to ask is, "What integrity do I see in this guy's actions?" I think if they do, they will find that they do not witness very much.

No one doubts that RR gets one thing. His career at TSUN will be defined by his first two games against Ohio State and he will will be living to come into Ohio Stadium and repeat that Bo Schembechler victory.

What TSUN fans may not realize is that, it's all about RR. He won't care if he loses the prior three games, he will not reveal the completely new offensive and defensive scheme he will be developing for The Game and he will treat it like a NC game.

He will be living for this moment. It is his career, not his player's.

So, if Ohio State is not really ready to play this as their game of the year, then he will win. But, there is an important coefficient in the equation that differs significantly between 1969 and now. Jim Tressel.

I'll take the honesty of Jim Tressel over the smarmy slickness of a contrived RR.

For instance, where is the integrity in this show of bringing back the 1969 team?

Just look at that picture of the 1969 TSUN team. How desperate is it when a group of former players in their late 50's sit on chairs to be lectured by "the coach" so that they can act out a fantasy?

Who, except a delusional group of losers could accept this posing? What precisely is he supposed to be telling them? What great concept is he supposed to be communicating to a group of middle-aged men? "Guys, it's all about commitment to winning The Game. We've got to have your commitment, from now until that game." T

his from a guy who shows so little lack of commitment in his own behavior?

It's hilarious. :slappy: And it's pathetic.

There are other important differences. This Buckeye team is not an undefeated group of mainly juniors who think that they are invincible. They know that they can lose big games if they are unprepared. Thanks to RR and his pretending that he "embraces the tradition", they'll know that he is staking all his marbles on The Game. TSUN will not be sneaking up on them. They'll also know who is under more pressure to win.

I'll take the Buckeyes to beat RR's ass like a drum and put an end to TSUN dream of a new coach that is going to "kill this Tressel thing".
 
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Steve19;1088478; said:
So, if Ohio State is not really ready to play this as their game of the year, then he will win. But, there is an important coefficient in the equation that differs significantly between 1969 and now. Jim Tressel.

There are other important differences. This Buckeye team is not an undefeated group of mainly juniors who think that they are invincible. They know that they can lose big games if they are unprepared. Thanks to RR and his pretending that he "embraces the tradition", they'll know that he is staking all his marbles on The Game. TSUN will not be sneaking up on them.

The other big difference is that the 1969 game was in AA, but this year The Game is in the 'Shoe.
 
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ChisAto;1088348; said:
Anybody watch RR on ESPNews today?

He was talking about why he took the job saying because its Michigan, who wouldn't take it basically. Then he started talking about "ignorant" people giving death threats to his nieces and nephews and kids, he started crying when talking about his kids.

Seemed like a contrived plea for sympathy by a man who sees his reputation swirling around the urinal cake to me. He sure does cry a lot.:sob:
 
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Limped and gimped. :lol:

Michigan is happy to have Rodriguez

Michigan is happy to have Rodriguez
Friday, February 08, 2008
By Chuck Finder, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- One by one, celebrated members of the 1969 University of Michigan football team limped, gimped and otherwise made their way to the meeting room podium and addressed the current Wolverines, whose assets they threatened to kick despite advancing age.
Reggie McKenzie, former Buffalo Bills lineman, delivered a motivational speech perhaps even better than the ones for which he usually gets recompensed. Jim Brandstetter, longtime Wolverines broadcaster, offered an emotional message about playing for far more than oneself. And Dan Dierdorf, a Hall of Famer who, as a broadcaster, has yet to leave football, spoke stirringly about change.
That was the reason why about 30 members of that Big Ten championship team converged the night before letter of intent day: to articulate from experience.
For they were the last Michigan football team to be coached by an outsider, to be subjected to such a drastic transition, to be put through paces unaccustomed by Wolverines for so long.
Of course, that outsider was the late, legendary coach whose name adorns the sprawling football facility, whose shadow pervades, whose office remains intact and unoccupied down Bo Schembechler Hall from the new guy on the block, Rich Rodriguez. As much as his former state reviles Rodriguez, much of his new one seems to hold him in one regard similar to Schembechler.
Rodriguez represents change, and change can be good.
Though, as one member of the Michigan Board of Regents put it, folks will reserve the right to fully judge until hearing "Hail to the Victors" time and again next fall.
"Call me back at the end of next season," Rebecca McGowan said this week, after Rodriguez's 50th official day as the Wolverines' new coach. "This Regent is delighted to have him here. I think he's out there doing what we hoped he'd do: recruiting, etcetera, etcetera.
"Come late summer, we're all looking forward to the first scrimmage."
 
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ChisAto;1088348; said:
Anybody watch RR on ESPNews today?

He was talking about why he took the job saying because its Michigan, who wouldn't take it basically. Then he started talking about "ignorant" people giving death threats to his nieces and nephews and kids, he started crying when talking about his kids.

Must be taking lessons from this woman ...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq9wAHk-S_A"]YouTube - Hillary Clinton cries during interview[/ame]
 
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SNIPER26;1088424; said:
You're right, I apologize for that. But these WVU fuckers are ridiculous and out of control. Move on people, it's over. Rodriguez was great for their program, yet will only be remembered for how he left.

On the same token, what BB said was accurate as well. I don't condone RR's behavior, but I could never condone death threats for a game.

Thanks for the welcome back guys.

Funny, how every new story that comes out is from Ann Arbor and not Morgantown. WVU will move on when that prick pays $4mil....Pay, and WVU will go on with life....Rich needs to quit crying on tv and to the newpapers and pay....pretty simple really....You Michigan yuppies make it out like all WVU fans are scum of the Earth.....excuse us for being upset that our coach turned his back on us....

and as far as death threats, I want proof....I want to see where the poilce were called (Like i would do if someone threatened me with death)....Some kids at school probably picked on Rich's boy, and they take that as threats....cry me a river....
 
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