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Religion in public schools

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I'm not trying to be facetious, but do you mean global warming and evolution/geology teachings?

Or are you one of those silly people who do not want their kid to have the microchip implanted under the mandatory Unicorm tattoo?? :paranoid:
 
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DGADBTWSOM;1618007; said:
What part of 1st grade is liberally bias? Specific subject or is it the teaching of a specific value you do not agree with? I don't quite understand the "liberal bias" of elemenery school.
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Mostly books that are sent home for her to read. The latest was slightly religious and very Al Gore.

It was called "Noah's Rocket" or something like that. It was based off of the story of Noah and the arc. The world was overwhelmed with greenhouse gases and all Earths animals and plants were going extinct because humans over populated and industrial plants pumped out toxic gas. Noah builds a spaceship and takes all the animals and plants for a 40 day space voyage to find another planet to inhabit.

To me, this is not only religious due to Noah and a 40 day space voyage, but left leaning in terms of global warming.
 
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Religious teaching is probably best kept in private schools where it can be more specific to a certain group. That just makes more sense than trying to water it down for the masses.

Now Humanism and Socialism, they are great to teach in public school for the masses! :wink2:
 
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reagdog;1617973; said:
I guess I never noticed any school I ever went to as being "left" leaning. Maybe they were and I never noticed it, or maybe back when I went to school, they just taught without any political influence or agenda? I ended up Republican, so it didn't work if they did.
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Schools taught right wing propaganda before 1998. Not surprising your weak mind soaked it up like a sponge.
 
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reagdog;1618022; said:
Mostly books that are sent home for her to read. The latest was slightly religious and very Al Gore.

It was called "Noah's Rocket" or something like that. It was based off of the story of Noah and the arc. The world was overwhelmed with greenhouse gases and all Earths animals and plants were going extinct because humans over populated and industrial plants pumped out toxic gas. Noah builds a spaceship and takes all the animals and plants for a 40 day space voyage to find another planet to inhabit.

To me, this is not only religious due to Noah and a 40 day space voyage, but left leaning in terms of global warming.
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First of all, Al Gore is a verb now?!

Second, I can see how that type of book can be seen as a strange selection for a public school. being on the liberal side I don't care much for religious teachings in a public school setting, but, I don't find the Noah's arch theme objectionable for whatever reason.
On the global warming theme, I understand how you could see this as lefty propaganda, being that it seems your viewpoint is based on a Fox News foundation, not that I totally agree with the distribution of global warming theory to 1st graders, there is probably a better way to teach kids to respect their surroundings, recycle and not to litter.
However, I don't think this is lefty brainwashing by any means, creative interpretation of Noah's arch maybe, but not propaganda.
 
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scooter1369;1617682; said:
This question has a different twist on it because of something I encountered this morning when dropping off my daughter at school.

Last year, this little 1st grader in Emily's class spent music class in the library because due to her religion, she wasn't allowed to attend this class. I received this with skepticism, because ever religion that I know of has chants and songs and music in some way, shape or form.

Flash forward to this morning. This same little girls comes running up to me and says, I shit you not "Mr. (scooter), Mr. (scooter)!! Have you seen Ninja Assassin yet?"

:eek:

If you haven't seen or heard about this movie, it is gory and has a body count of about 200 people. It is rated, quite correctly, at R for violence and language.

So how does one go from "do not want her mind poisoned with American music class" to "watch R rated kill fests"? And what religion would see nothing wrong with this?
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here, scoot... and... maybe I've missed something in the nuance here (which is likely) but, I sort of tend to think that if the original reason here that was given was religion... well... the twist is that it probably really wasn't.

Not sure what the music class was, but, I'm guessing that (and the ninja thing may still not make sense) that someone in the child in questions family has an issue with american culture.... and is scared of that particular indoctrination, not so much with "I'm a "muslin/christian/spaghetti monster worshipper" type of objection as it is with the idea that what is "American" is at odds with whatever her/his parents think is right.

It's similar to the Frenchies inventing French words for Computer, t-shirt and blue jeans because if it infects their language, it infects the culture.

As far as actual political agendas in school... time to be a parent... not time to blame the educators, necessarily. If this is the biggest problem your kids ever face, you and they will do well.
 
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OK, so maybe I'm a little over the top thinking it's leftist propoganda, but I thought it wasn't totally appropriate. I was expecting her to bring home books about John and Jill riding bicycles and very simple things that a 6 year old can relate with, and instead it's global warming books and books about humans over-fishing and stuff like that.
 
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reagdog;1618058; said:
OK, so maybe I'm a little over the top thinking it's leftist propoganda, but I thought it wasn't totally appropriate. I was expecting her to bring home books about John and Jill riding bicycles and very simple things that a 6 year old can relate with, and instead it's global warming books and books about humans over-fishing and stuff like that.
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Dr. Suess has been writing the same kind of shit for a long time.

my kid is 3 and bored of John and Jill rding bikes... sorry, but its true.

Look, not saying who is right here, but, you have more responsibility than the teacher, they are going to believe Dad more.
 
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