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RB Miyan “Chop” Williams (Official Thread)

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Jeez guys do you need to speculate everytime someone misses some time. They said he was injured this week during the game. Sick was 2 weeks ago
 
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I, obviously, don't know the specifics, but I know that you get beat up during the season, especially if you're a RB who seeks yards after contact (not saying that's a bad thing). It's a luxury to be able to sit one (and, as it turned out, two) and not lose too much momentum. That's where we are across the field (intended) with every offensive group now.
 
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I, obviously, don't know the specifics, but I know that you get beat up during the season, especially if you're a RB who seeks yards after contact (not saying that's a bad thing). It's a luxury to be able to sit one (and, as it turned out, two) and not lose too much momentum. That's where we are across the field (intended) with every offensive group now.
Spot on. Earl Campbell and Jim Brown weren't human. These guys get banged up a lot. It's extremely important for these guys to be ready on the bench because it really is one play away from you're the man now. 4 deep is pretty excellent!
 
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Spot on. Earl Campbell and Jim Brown weren't human. These guys get banged up a lot. It's extremely important for these guys to be ready on the bench because it really is one play away from you're the man now. 4 deep is pretty excellent!

I think it used to take an injury to call up the next man. Now, we are extremely blessed to be able to sub-in without much drop off and to leverage that functional depth. Even tOSU couldn't say that in every position group until this year. I hope it continues after this season and pays big dividends on the back end of this one.
 
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I think to a large extent, they’ve taken into consideration our last (2) Playoff losses, and the thing that stands out above all else, is the lack of a #2 RB in event #1 gets hurt.

When JK Dobbins was injured against Clemson our game-plan fell apart. And it wasn’t simply bc of the fall-off from JK to Teague. There was clearly a lack of knowledge, IMO, on designed plays (which JK would know blocking schemes and steps) and Teague who wouldn’t have the same practice reps. I think it’s really been overlooked last 2 years.

The same thing happened against Bama with Trey Sermon. Sermon had separated himself so much from Master by end of year, there’s no doubt Trey had the lions share of practice with 1’s. It was no coincidence then that the timing was off on a screen to Master Teague that if completed likely goes for a TD against Bama.

I actually think they’ve made a concerted effort to rotate who is playing in each game to make sure they all have the experience necessary should same situation present itself later in season.

The conflict is always going to be the weekly “inserted/dialed up” plays that get added to attack something you see against that weeks opponent….which is something Day thrives at.
 
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I think to a large extent, they’ve taken j to consideration our last (2) Playoff losses, and the thing that stands out above all else, is the lack of a #2 RB in event #1 gets hurt.

When JK Dobbins was injured against Clemson out game-plan fell apart. And it wasn’t simply bc of the fall-off from JK to Teague. There was clearly a lack of knowledge, IMO, on designed plays (which JK would know blocking schemes and steps) and Teague who wouldn’t have the same practice reps. I think it’s really been overlooked last 2 years.

The same thing happened against Bama with Trey Sermon. Sermon had separated himself so much from Master by end of year, there’s no doubt Trey had the lions share of practice with 1’s. It was no coincidence then that the timing was off on a screen to Master Teague that if completed likely goes for a TD against Bama.

I actually think they’ve made a concerted effort to rotate who is playing in each game to make sure they all have the experience necessary should same situation present itself later in season.

The conflict is always going to be the weekly “inserted/dialed up” plays that get added to attack something you see against that weeks opponent….which is something Day thrives at.
Mo was hurt. McGahee later, so Craig Keenan leads the rushers.
06 they were fine but nothing mattered with those trenches
Beanie was not, and kept them in it for a bit
Zeke was fresh and carried them
Jt was the RB in 16 and was years from being fresh
Jk was hurt
Trey left the game

The health of the rb drove their chances in all of those games, with the exception of the one where it didn't matter
 
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Mo was hurt. McGahee later, so Craig Keenan leads the rushers.
06 they were fine but nothing mattered with those trenches
Beanie was not, and kept them in it for a bit
Zeke was fresh and carried them
Jt was the RB in 16 and was years from being fresh
Jk was hurt
Trey left the game

The health of the rb drove their chances in all of those games, with the exception of the one where it didn't matter

Im not sure if I’m following, but I’d just interject the game has changed a bit, certainly when it comes to “dialed up” plays. And by “dialed up” plays, I’d be even more specific and say misdirection plays installed to take advantage of a specific weakness you have identified against specific teams based on their coverages.

Not to say Tressel didn’t have trick plays. But he overwhelmingly ran a system. Day has a base offense and system as well, but the amount of scripted/dialed up plays is up tenfold from a guy like Tressel/Jim Bollman.

Day and Lincoln Reilly are prob best in business when it comes to dialed up plays. And the volume is enormous as well.

But the issue with those specific plays is the amount of reps you get in practice. And bc they are specific designed installs, they aren’t always practiced by back-ups.

Teague, 2 years in a row, has flamed out as the backup. Against Clemson the offense immediately lost its rhythm. Against Bama, plays we hadn’t seen all year, we’re just a little off. The rhythm wasn’t right. Bama was obviously much better, but again, the simple example of the screen Pass timing be way off is a simple example. That wasn’t a screen we ran all year. I have no doubt it was designed with Trey Sermon in mind and something Teague had to little to any experience with.

I think to a greater extent, Teague and Miyan are essentially splitting games so they both know who is getting the reps and have more clarity week to week.
 
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Im not sure if I’m following, but I’d just interject the game has changed a bit, certainly when it comes to “dialed up” plays. And by “dialed up” plays, I’d be even more specific and say misdirection plays installed to take advantage of a specific weakness you have identified against specific teams based on their coverages.

Not to say Tressel didn’t have trick plays. But he overwhelmingly ran a system. Day has a base offense and system as well, but the amount of scripted/dialed up plays is up tenfold from a guy like Tressel/Jim Bollman.

Day and Lincoln Reilly are prob best in business when it comes to dialed up plays. And the volume is enormous as well.

But the issue with those specific plays is the amount of reps you get in practice. And bc they are specific designed installs, they aren’t always practiced by back-ups.

Teague, 2 years in a row, has flamed out as the backup. Against Clemson the offense immediately lost its rhythm. Against Bama, plays we hadn’t seen all year, we’re just a little off. The rhythm wasn’t right. Bama was obviously much better, but again, the simple example of the screen Pass timing be way off is a simple example. That wasn’t a screen we ran all year. I have no doubt it was designed with Trey Sermon in mind and something Teague had to little to any experience with.

I think to a greater extent, Teague and Miyan are essentially splitting games so they both know who is getting the reps and have more clarity week to week.
I agree with everything you said, I was taking it a step further showing how devastating it was when those primary rushers were not fresh. And in most cases there was a colossal dropoff to the next guy.
 
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I agree with everything you said, I was taking it a step further showing how devastating it was when those primary rushers were not fresh. And in most cases there was a colossal dropoff to the next guy.
Yep dobbins being off and a few dropped passes cost a chance at a championship. Sermon being hurt probably cost us 14ish points. We likely weren't winning last year but no sermon or Williams and Togai made damn sure we weren't
 
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