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RB Miyan “Chop” Williams (Official Thread)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by cdiddy70, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Redhawk

    Redhawk All-American

    Odd no posts here in 2 weeks. Especially since he didn't see the field. I certainly may have missed it, but I haven't seen anything about why he didn't play.
  2. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    It was presented that he had a sick day last week and could not practice... only thing I saw
  3. Redhawk

    Redhawk All-American

    I figured it wasn't a covid thing since he was in full pads on the sidelines. Just odd to not hear it brought up. Maybe because Henderson exploded.
  4. Folanator

    Folanator Brawndo's got electrolytes...

    Is something amiss here? I have no info or heard anything, but something seems off.
  5. dragurd

    dragurd Senior


    Jeez guys do you need to speculate everytime someone misses some time. They said he was injured this week during the game. Sick was 2 weeks ago
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  6. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    I, obviously, don't know the specifics, but I know that you get beat up during the season, especially if you're a RB who seeks yards after contact (not saying that's a bad thing). It's a luxury to be able to sit one (and, as it turned out, two) and not lose too much momentum. That's where we are across the field (intended) with every offensive group now.
  7. Bestbuck36

    Bestbuck36 Kyle Young man crush. Not ashamed

    Spot on. Earl Campbell and Jim Brown weren't human. These guys get banged up a lot. It's extremely important for these guys to be ready on the bench because it really is one play away from you're the man now. 4 deep is pretty excellent!
  8. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    I think it used to take an injury to call up the next man. Now, we are extremely blessed to be able to sub-in without much drop off and to leverage that functional depth. Even tOSU couldn't say that in every position group until this year. I hope it continues after this season and pays big dividends on the back end of this one.
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2021
  9. AJHawkfan

    AJHawkfan Wanna make $14 the hard way?

    I trust that the coaches and Miyan know why he hasn't been getting game reps. If they're all ok with the reasoning, so am I. Here's hoping its just to get some rest and be extra fresh for the stretch run of the B1G season.
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  10. billmac91

    billmac91 Senior

    I think to a large extent, they’ve taken into consideration our last (2) Playoff losses, and the thing that stands out above all else, is the lack of a #2 RB in event #1 gets hurt.

    When JK Dobbins was injured against Clemson our game-plan fell apart. And it wasn’t simply bc of the fall-off from JK to Teague. There was clearly a lack of knowledge, IMO, on designed plays (which JK would know blocking schemes and steps) and Teague who wouldn’t have the same practice reps. I think it’s really been overlooked last 2 years.

    The same thing happened against Bama with Trey Sermon. Sermon had separated himself so much from Master by end of year, there’s no doubt Trey had the lions share of practice with 1’s. It was no coincidence then that the timing was off on a screen to Master Teague that if completed likely goes for a TD against Bama.

    I actually think they’ve made a concerted effort to rotate who is playing in each game to make sure they all have the experience necessary should same situation present itself later in season.

    The conflict is always going to be the weekly “inserted/dialed up” plays that get added to attack something you see against that weeks opponent….which is something Day thrives at.
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2021
  11. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Mo was hurt. McGahee later, so Craig Keenan leads the rushers.
    06 they were fine but nothing mattered with those trenches
    Beanie was not, and kept them in it for a bit
    Zeke was fresh and carried them
    Jt was the RB in 16 and was years from being fresh
    Jk was hurt
    Trey left the game

    The health of the rb drove their chances in all of those games, with the exception of the one where it didn't matter
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2021
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  12. billmac91

    billmac91 Senior

    Im not sure if I’m following, but I’d just interject the game has changed a bit, certainly when it comes to “dialed up” plays. And by “dialed up” plays, I’d be even more specific and say misdirection plays installed to take advantage of a specific weakness you have identified against specific teams based on their coverages.

    Not to say Tressel didn’t have trick plays. But he overwhelmingly ran a system. Day has a base offense and system as well, but the amount of scripted/dialed up plays is up tenfold from a guy like Tressel/Jim Bollman.

    Day and Lincoln Reilly are prob best in business when it comes to dialed up plays. And the volume is enormous as well.

    But the issue with those specific plays is the amount of reps you get in practice. And bc they are specific designed installs, they aren’t always practiced by back-ups.

    Teague, 2 years in a row, has flamed out as the backup. Against Clemson the offense immediately lost its rhythm. Against Bama, plays we hadn’t seen all year, we’re just a little off. The rhythm wasn’t right. Bama was obviously much better, but again, the simple example of the screen Pass timing be way off is a simple example. That wasn’t a screen we ran all year. I have no doubt it was designed with Trey Sermon in mind and something Teague had to little to any experience with.

    I think to a greater extent, Teague and Miyan are essentially splitting games so they both know who is getting the reps and have more clarity week to week.
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  13. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    I agree with everything you said, I was taking it a step further showing how devastating it was when those primary rushers were not fresh. And in most cases there was a colossal dropoff to the next guy.
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  14. dragurd

    dragurd Senior

    Yep dobbins being off and a few dropped passes cost a chance at a championship. Sermon being hurt probably cost us 14ish points. We likely weren't winning last year but no sermon or Williams and Togai made damn sure we weren't
  15. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU Senior Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Definitely like getting Miyan some rest even if he could go. Henderson shredded it and gave Teague plenty of time to shine. Even bigger in my eyes is that Crowley got some really valuable reps and looked good as well. Going legit 4 deep is going to pay off in a huge way down the road, and Miyan will be part of that.

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