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RB Jaamal Berry (Transfer to Murray State)

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Buckeye513;2020951; said:
No one said this is what happened.
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Woody1968;2020953; said:
No one said this is what happened. The report says that Jaamal and his friend were shouting at the guy who was hit, then crossed the street and punched both of them. Whether there is more to the story or not, punching people is usually frowned upon in polite circles and by the law, except in extreme circumstances.
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I never said anyone said that is what happened. My point is there's so much of the story that seems to be left out and people are making quick judgements. But, in essence, that is what people are inferring; Jaamal seen a kid get hit by a car, started yelling at him, crossed the street and punched two people.

If he didn't punch him because he got hit by a car, what other reason did he punch him? That's the biggest question. And if no one knows, how can any conclusions be drawn? I'm not defending his actions, you don't see me doing that anywhere. What I'm doing is asking questions about the obvious gap in the beginning to the end of the report.
 
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buchtelgrad04;2020977; said:
I never said anyone said that is what happened. My point is there's so much of the story that seems to be left out and people are making quick judgements. But, in essence, that is what people are inferring; Jaamal seen a kid get hit by a car, started yelling at him, crossed the street and punched two people.

If he didn't punch him because he got hit by a car, what other reason did he punch him? That's the biggest question. And if no one knows, how can any conclusions be drawn? I'm not defending his actions, you don't see me doing that anywhere. What I'm doing is asking questions about the obvious gap in the beginning to the end of the report.
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I hear you, and I agree that we need to let this play out, but in what possible circumstance would it have been OK for Jaamal to punch these guys in the face? I can't think of any situation, unless they assaulted him physically, or were assaulting someone else, and there is no indication of that.
 
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Woody1968;2020978; said:
I hear you, and I agree that we need to let this play out, but in what possible circumstance would it have been OK for Jaamal to punch these guys in the face? I can't think of any situation, unless they assaulted him physically, or were assaulting someone else, and there is no indication of that.
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And I agree with you. There is no indication of any of that. I just fail to see anyone, even a player with a history of small misdeeds, seeing a person get hit by a car, yelling at him, then crossing the street (Vine St, at that) to punch him AND his friend for no apparent reason. Not even the toughest of thugs do things like this. I don't know what circumstance could warrant that, as I do not know Jaamal well enough to speculate.
 
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buchtelgrad04;2020982; said:
And I agree with you. There is no indication of any of that. I just fail to see anyone, even a player with a history of small misdeeds, seeing a person get hit by a car, yelling at him, then crossing the street (Vine St, at that) to punch him AND his friend for no apparent reason. Not even the toughest of thugs do things like this. I don't know what circumstance could warrant that, as I do not know Jaamal well enough to speculate.
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Taking the minimal-details story at face value for the moment, words were exchanged in both directions. We don't know what was said, or how it was said, but it's not that uncommon among guys in their early twenties, when words are exchanged in a tense situation, for someone to decide he was disrespected and a lesson needs to be taught. I'm not saying that's what happened here - I obviously have no idea what happened here. But your stance that the alleged victim's rough description of the scenario can't plausibly explain the outcome is, I think, a bit biased.
 
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I would brag about beating a white dude as well if this was the white dude


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Woody1968;2020937; said:
Both the guy who got hit by the car and the friend were punched, and unless one of them physically attacked Berry or someone that he had a duty to protect, I can't think of anything that would justify him punching them in the face.

IF this is true.
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Exactly, IF. In terms of facts, there are very few established at this point, and I am always leery when there is a civil suit without criminal charges in an alleged assault. The only thing I'm sure of is that Berry's story is a confusing one lately.
 
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zincfinger;2020993; said:
Taking the minimal-details story at face value for the moment, words were exchanged in both directions. We don't know what was said, or how it was said, but it's not that uncommon among guys in their early twenties, when words are exchanged in a tense situation, for someone to decide he was disrespected and a lesson needs to be taught. I'm not saying that's what happened here - I obviously have no idea what happened here. But your stance that the alleged victim's rough description of the scenario can't plausibly explain the outcome is, I think, a bit biased.
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This is what I am wondering.

I can picture some kid getting hit by a car, but apparently unhurt. Jamaal laughs and points or something. The kid's friend says something. Jamaal says something back. The kid mutters under his breath. Jamaal hits them both once sending them to the ground.

Who knows though.
 
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This is an odd situation which makes me ask 2 questions. First, can the "victim", prove his injuries were caused by Jamaal when he was just hit by a car? Second, is he suing the driver of the car also, or is Jamaal just a high profile case?
 
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buclife;2021075; said:
This is an odd situation which makes me ask 2 questions. First, can the "victim", prove his injuries were caused by Jamaal when he was just hit by a car? Second, is he suing the driver of the car also, or is Jamaal just a high profile case?
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Third question ... Basketball season still starts in about two weeks, right? :ohwell:
 
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zincfinger;2020993; said:
Taking the minimal-details story at face value for the moment, words were exchanged in both directions. We don't know what was said, or how it was said, but it's not that uncommon among guys in their early twenties, when words are exchanged in a tense situation, for someone to decide he was disrespected and a lesson needs to be taught. I'm not saying that's what happened here - I obviously have no idea what happened here. But your stance that the alleged victim's rough description of the scenario can't plausibly explain the outcome is, I think, a bit biased.
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I don't think my stance is bias in any way. I simply think there are facts that the alleged victim is leaving out. If I was defending Jaamal, I could see how you would draw that conclusion. I could be wrong. Hell, we could all be wrong by trying to think logically regarding an illogical situation involving college kids.
 
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