RB Chris "Beanie" Wells (All B1G, All-American)

[MililaniBuckeye]

If Troy wins the title? Yes. At least in the discussion, if just a little below.

Beanie's legend/prestige will extend to the NFL with a high draft pick and one would assume a successful career... something Archie did not have.

Do you think they wish to give out a second heisman? That's a pretty big caveat here too.

Ask the average fan to name two icons of Ohio State football, and virtually everyone will name Woody Hayes and Archie Griffin...Eddie George and Troy Smith may get token mentions. Sorry, but Archie is so far above Eddie and Troy in status it's funny. If Beanie were to win the Heisman this year and jump ship early for the NFL, he'll be no more "legendary" than Eddie or Troy, no matter what kind of NFL career he has (Archie had a less-than-stellar pro career, but he still is a living icon for Ohio State).

As far as a second Heisman, I think the Heisman voters are ready to go ahead and have a repeat winner. The big thing against Tebow repeating is the sick stats he put up last year...they won't give the Heisman to him again unless he at least matches last year's performance, and that's highly unlikely with everyone focusing more on Tebow this season.

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

MLBs take as much pounding, if not more, than a RB. Laurinaitis was a projected top 5 pick and he came back for his senior year, and he can't set near the records that Beanie could. You say, "I'll believe it when I see it"...well, keep your eyes peeled.

Actually, RB's take much more of a pounding than an MLB. MLB's make 100 or so hits a year, while RB's get hit about 200 times a year. Also, you can just look at the average length of a career for a HB, which is the shortest in the NFL.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Actually, RB's take much more of a pounding than an MLB. MLB's make 100 or so hits a year, while RB's get hit about 200 times a year. Also, you can just look at the average length of a career for a HB, which is the shortest in the NFL.

Uh, MLBs make 100 or so tackles a year...most MLBs also get hit by OLs and TEs downfield on plays where they're not in on the tackle.

 

[BB73]

As far as a second Heisman, I think the Heisman voters are ready to go ahead and have a repeat winner. The big thing against Tebow repeating is the sick stats he put up last year...they won't give the Heisman to him again unless he at least matches last year's performance, and that's highly unlikely with everyone focusing more on Tebow this season.

Tebow may need similar stats in yards and TD's, but they won't give it to him if his team has 3 losses again (the 4th was in the Bowl). But if Florida makes the BCS title game, he won't need to have the same monster stats again.

If Beanie wins the Heisman and/or the NC this year, I have no idea whether that makes him more or less likely to return. But I'd sure like to spend the last 3 weeks of January trying to figure that out.

 

[SNIPER26]

Uh, MLBs make 100 or so tackles a year...most MLBs also get hit by OLs and TEs downfield on plays where they're not in on the tackle.

Okay, but RBs get nicked up on carries, receptions, pass blocking etc...I really don't think it's close. Why is it that RBs have the shortest shelf life?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Okay, but RBs get nicked up on carries, receptions, pass blocking etc...I really don't think it's close. Why is it that RBs have the shortest shelf life?

If you look at the "shelf lives" of RBs and MLBs, there's not that much difference...and that's in the NFL. We're talking college here (at least I am). Beanie's staying for his senior year really isn't going to put as much wear-and-tear on his body that an extra year in the NFL would.

Bottom line is, would the chance of becoming one of the best college RBs, and players, of all-time be worth not leaving early for the NFL?

 

[SNIPER26]

If you look at the "shelf lives" of RBs and MLBs, there's not that much difference...and that's in the NFL. We're talking college here (at least I am). Beanie's staying for his senior year really isn't going to put as much wear-and-tear on his body that an extra year in the NFL would.

Bottom line is, would the chance of becoming one of the best college RBs, and players, of all-time be worth not leaving early for the NFL?

Ask Michael Bush if he thinks he should have left early for the NFL. The point is, the money isn't always there if you have a major injury. Now, Wells is a tank and very well-built, but freak injuries happen. The difference between a top 5 pick and a 3rd rounder (say he gets hurt, ala Bush) is what? 35 million?

 

[Best Buckeye]

You guys are taking the wrong train of thought. It isn't what beanie can or does win in trophies and awards that are the measure by which a player decides to go but rather the mind set he has. It wasn't money the the promise of that kept our players here but a dream, a thought in their head of what they wanted to achieve.
That is what Beanie will decide on. Sure the glamour and money is a factor in those decisions but we just had a lot of great players stay over and shun the money just because they wanted to and Beanie saw that and Im sure he remembers that. He has seen what desire and goals can mean and I am just as sure that he feels what they did for tOSU and themselves and the team and that is not a small thing on Jt's teams.
I'm just as sure that he appreciates what Animal and Jenks and the others did.
So if I read him right he just might come back and I would say that it's about 60-10 he comes back.

 

[jwinslow]

Big difference between coming back for '05 & '07 (veteran, stacked, huge expectations) and '06 & '08. '06 we saw Youboty & Whitner follow the core of the team to the NFL.

OSU could very well lose Boeckman, Robiskie, Hartline, Nicol, Boone, Rehring, Person, Wilson, Freeman, Laurinaitis, Jenkins, Washington, Pretorious, Trapasso, and maybe an outside chance on Russell.

That's a ton of turnover, no matter how talented the backups may be. The bold names obviously being the guaranteed departures. There are double digit possibilities there for all conference and higher selections.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Ask Michael Bush if he thinks he should have left early for the NFL. The point is, the money isn't always there if you have a major injury. Now, Wells is a tank and very well-built, but freak injuries happen. The difference between a top 5 pick and a 3rd rounder (say he gets hurt, ala Bush) is what? 35 million?

How about asking Willis McGahee about getting drafted after a catastrophic knee injury in his last college game? How far did he fall in the draft? Hint: He was the very first RB selected in the 2003 draft, less then four months after his gruesome injury.

Unless Beanie gets paralyzed, no way he would fall out of the first round due to injury.

 

[Hubbard]

Beanie is about to be interviewed on ESPN Classic right now, doing a College Football Special

 

[SNIPER26]

How about asking Willis McGahee about getting drafted after a catastrophic knee injury in his last college game? How far did he fall in the draft? Hint: He was the very first RB selected in the 2003 draft, less then four months after his gruesome injury.

Unless Beanie gets paralyzed, no way he would fall out of the first round due to injury.

What's more likely? Fucking up your knee and being drafted in the first round or fucking up your knee and being drafted in the third?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Beanie is about to be interviewed on ESPN Classic right now, doing a College Football Special

Quit interrupting this thread with relevent posts...

 

[SNIPER26]

Anyway, I really don't expect Wells to stick around if he wins the Heisman and/or a national title, but maybe that's just my Michigan homerism speaking. We shall see.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Wells isn't sticking around for anything....so I don't know what all the discussion is about. He's gone.