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RB Carlos "El Guapo" Hyde (Official Thread)

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Zurp said:
At this point in the 2013 season, he's averaging 6.7 yards per carry.

In comparison:
In 1974, Archie Griffin averaged 6.6 yards per carry, en route to winning the Heisman.
In 1975, Archie Griffin averaged 5.5 yards per carry, en route to winning the Heisman.
In 1995, Eddie George averaged 5.9 yards per carry, en route to winning the Heisman.

According to this site: http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/graphics/pdf/m-footbl/1112_guide_8records1.pdf no one since 1950 has led the team in rushing yards and averaged more than 6.7 yards per carry. (The site only lists who led the team in rushing yards each year, so there may have been another player who averaged more yards, but had fewer total rushing yards.) You have to go back to 1998 (Michael Wiley, 6.2 ypc) to find someone who averaged over 6 yards per carry. Robert Smith averaged 6.4 in 1990. Calvin Murray averaged 6.54 in 1980. Griffin had 2 years of 6+ ypc. Bob Fergusen had 6.1 ypc in 1959. And in 1950, Walt Klevay (I've never heard of him) averaged 7.9 yards per carry.

Mostly just an FYI that I thought was interesting.
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Those are some great names to be mentioned with, and some very fascinating stats. And he's certainly cementing his status as one of the Osu all time eat RBs. And it's sad, that he won't even sniff the heisman, and probably wouldn't if he played all season either. It's a QB age now, where the spread has QBs putting up video game numbers on a weekly basis. Doesn't lessen the fact that Carlos has been an integral spark to the team
 
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pnuts34 said:
Those are some great names to be mentioned with, and some very fascinating stats. And he's certainly cementing his status as one of the Osu all time eat RBs. And it's sad, that he won't even sniff the heisman, and probably wouldn't if he played all season either. It's a QB age now, where the spread has QBs putting up video game numbers on a weekly basis. Doesn't lessen the fact that Carlos has been an integral spark to the team
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I don't totally agree, I do think that if he wasn't suspended (3 games), got off to a fast start, and put up Mark Ingram (2009) numbers he would be getting serious Heisman consideration. Ingram had 1659 total rushing yards, 17 rushing TDs, and a 6.1 yards per carry average. Carlos is recently getting over over 20 carries per game and averaging 6.7 yards per carry. Last year he scored 16 rushing TDs, he could have topped that this year. If he was in contention, you know the coaches would try to pad his numbers to get more publicity too. i.e. heck he could have easily scored a lot more than 2 TDs in the Penn State game had they of left him in longer and gave him the ball, etc.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/503303/

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/8/1015238/
 
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ScriptOhio said:
I don't totally agree, I do think that if he wasn't suspended (3 games), got off to a fast start, and put up Trent Richardson (2009) numbers he would be getting serious Heisman consideration. Richardson had 1659 total rushing yards, 17 rushing TDs, and a 118.43 yards per carry average. Carlos is recently getting over over 20 carries per game and averaging 6.7 yards per carry. Last year he scored 16 rushing TDs, he could have topped that this year. If he was in contention, you know the coaches would try to pad his numbers to get more publicity too. i.e. heck he could have easily scored a lot more than 2 TDs in the Penn State game had they of left him in longer and gave him the ball, etc.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/503303/

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/8/1015238/
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If that were true, he would be the sole contender for the Heisman... not to mention he would've run more than the entire football field every carry... :) You mean yards per game.
 
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ant80 said:
If that were true, he would be the sole contender for the Heisman... not to mention he would've run more than the entire football field every carry... :) You mean yards per game.
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Actually I meant to type in 6.1 in lieu of 118.43 (Ingram's ypg average) as Carlos is already averaging more (i.e. 6.7) than that.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
I don't totally agree, I do think that if he wasn't suspended (3 games), got off to a fast start, and put up Trent Richardson (2009) numbers he would be getting serious Heisman consideration. Richardson had 1659 total rushing yards, 17 rushing TDs, and a 6.1 yards per carry average. Carlos is recently getting over over 20 carries per game and averaging 6.7 yards per carry. Last year he scored 16 rushing TDs, he could have topped that this year. If he was in contention, you know the coaches would try to pad his numbers to get more publicity too. i.e. heck he could have easily scored a lot more than 2 TDs in the Penn State game had they of left him in longer and gave him the ball, etc.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/503303/

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/8/1015238/
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Trent Richardson, put up some great stats... For a RB! The winner of the heisman was Cam Newton, whose numbers out of the spread offense absolutely obliterated anything Richardson did. Newton had over 1400yds and 20tds just rushing. No way a RB will beat a QB that is an effective runner. So even of Carlos were to put up numbers close to Richardson's, guys like Mariotta and winston(and oh yeah that kid on college station, TX) will not only have close to if not more than 1000yds rushing, they'll also be throwing for several thousand yards and touchdowns in 20s-30s. It's almost not fair for a RB now. Not saying it can't be done, but it's a severe uphill battle for a position that's not a QB to win the heisman with the gaudy numbers they're putting up now.
 
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pnuts34 said:
Trent Richardson, put up some great stats... For a RB! The winner of the heisman was Cam Newton, whose numbers out of the spread offense absolutely obliterated anything Richardson did. Newton had over 1400yds and 20tds just rushing. No way a RB will beat a QB that is an effective runner. So even of Carlos were to put up numbers close to Richardson's, guys like Mariotta and winston(and oh yeah that kid on college station, TX) will not only have close to if not more than 1000yds rushing, they'll also be throwing for several thousand yards and touchdowns in 20s-30s. It's almost not fair for a RB now. Not saying it can't be done, but it's a severe uphill battle for a position that's not a QB to win the heisman with the gaudy numbers they're putting up now.
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I made another posting error. I have no idea why I had Richardson on my brain.

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I meant Mark Ingram, see my link those are his numbers, not Richardson's. Ingram won the Heisman in 2009 not Richardson.

http://www.heisman.com/winners/m-ingram09.php

I still think that if he wasn't suspended (3 games), got off to a fast start, and put up Mark Ingram (2009) numbers he would be getting serious Heisman consideration.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
I made another posting error. I have no idea why I had Richardson on my brain.

:smash::smash::smash::smash::smash::smash::smash::smash::smash::smash::smash:

I meant Mark Ingram, see my link those are his numbers, not Richardson's. Ingram won the Heisman in 2009 not Richardson.

http://www.heisman.com/winners/m-ingram09.php

I still think that if he wasn't suspended (3 games), got off to a fast start, and put up Mark Ingram (2009) numbers he would be getting serious Heisman consideration.
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If you break it down, a whopping 2 RBs (actually 1 since Reggie bush had to forfeit his) have won the heisman since 2000! When mark ingram won, his numbers weren't even that dynamic, he happened to be on the best team in the nation and be their best player. After mark, when dual threat QBs started to really take over, there have been several QBs that have put up as many rushing yards as mark did! I just don't see a RB winning a heisman for a while. The 2-3rd QB in the heisman race would and could have as many rushing yards as most RBs. Yes, Carlos would get serious consideration, but seeing as only the top 3 finalists are invited to NyC, I think Carlos would be hard pressed to get there. And with the years guys like jameis Winston and mariotti are having, they are going to dwarf whatever numbers Carlos would've put up regardless if he had those 3 games or not. Mariott doesn't even an interception yet this year! That in itself is bigger than any average that Hyde could put up. Manziel put up 562yds against the best team in the nation! And Winston is just playing on another level right now. On top of that, Hyde hasn't played the competition that the media would say is a big deal. Too much against him. He's very talented yes, but heisman talk, even with those 3 games, IMO, is a pipe dream.
 
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Targeting a pair of defenseless defensive players? Launching? Abusing a (soon to be) corpse? Offensive blitzkreig?

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Bestbuck36 said:
Finally. Everyone now see's what I was looking at his freshman year. You could just tell he was going to be abusing people. Love this kid. I don't even acknowledge that blip that happened this summer, he's a good kid.
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I remember him in garbage time as a frosh against IU and thinking I couldn't wait to see him get a chance to pound the rock as an every down back.
 
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