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QB1 Julian Sayin (All B1G, B1G Frosh of Year, All American, National Frosh of Year, National Champion)

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pnuts34 said:
McCord got a raw deal by fans actually, he was a very good QB.
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Strong disagree.

pnuts34 said:
And he had every right to think he’d start the next year in hindsight
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Again, strong disagree. That team won games in spite of him, not because of him. He did not come even close to earning a guaranteed starting spot the following season.

pnuts34 said:
Will Howard was solid and won an NC
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Howard was brought in because McCord wasn't good enough.

I was talking about the QBs that OSU recruited/developed from the beginning.

To round out the 2023 discussion: Devin Brown was never, ever Ohio State material. Kienholz needed several years and even then was a longshot to ever be the starting QB here.

pnuts34 said:
Sayin was more of a complete QB last year. Didn’t have the arm strength, but his accuracy was elite. But his accuracy has taken a dip this year
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Sayin has killed the cupcakes and been bad against elite teams.

Anyway, it is going to be fascinating to see how OSU handles the position over the next several months. Personally, I think they need to hit the portal again like they did with Howard.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:
Strong disagree.


Again, strong disagree. That team won games in spite of him, not because of him. He did not come even close to earning a guaranteed starting spot the following season.


Howard was brought in because McCord wasn't good enough.

I was talking about the QBs that OSU recruited/developed from the beginning.

To round out the 2023 discussion: Devin Brown was never, ever Ohio State material. Kienholz needed several years and even then was a longshot to ever be the starting QB here.


Sayin has killed the cupcakes and been bad against elite teams.

Anyway, it is going to be fascinating to see how OSU handles the position over the next several months. Personally, I think they need to hit the portal again like they did with Howard.
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I agree. I don’t think Julian is the answer for next year. I really want to see what Luke can do to be honest.

He really reminds of of Gabriel from Oregon. I don’t know if he can be the answer or not but we are going to find out.

One things for sure. Next years team is completely loaded. The WR is completely back other than JJ, TE room back, should have 3 or 4 returning in the OL somehow again, RBs back (need a portal impact guy though). Then the defense is insane with 3 returning on the DL, LBs entirely back, secondary should be returning 3 as well.

We can’t just roll into next year with a mediocre QB or a QB that can’t get it done in big games. Julian could be around both 2027 and 2028 if he wants but again I’m not so sure that’s a positive. If there’s elite options then you have to go get someone.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
I agree. I don’t think Julian is the answer for next year. I really want to see what Luke can do to be honest.

He really reminds of of Gabriel from Oregon. I don’t know if he can be the answer or not but we are going to find out.

One things for sure. Next years team is completely loaded. The WR is completely back other than JJ, TE room back, should have 3 or 4 returning in the OL somehow again, RBs back (need a portal impact guy though). Then the defense is insane with 3 returning on the DL, LBs entirely back, secondary should be returning 3 as well.

We can’t just roll into next year with a mediocre QB or a QB that can’t get it done in big games. Julian could be around both 2027 and 2028 if he wants but again I’m not so sure that’s a positive. If there’s elite options then you have to go get someone.
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Great points.
 
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we all knew this anyway…

We all know we weren’t winning anything with how the QB play has been vs good teams. Next years team is absolutely loaded so at a minimum we’ll get to see if this is something we need to address this off season.

If Luke or TSC just go off then that’s amazing. We’ll do well this year and next year is shaping up great. If it goes to crap? Well at least we know we need help in the portal but then also who cares. With a back up QB true freshman anything we accomplish is a cherry on top now.

Hoping for 2014 magic and I will go into every game pumped up. But I know it’s not likely we are winning it all that’s just statistically true.

I really hope Julian recovers fast. No season should end like that.
 
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