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Oh8ch;1224658; said:Not knocking TP at all - but what are you basing this on?
When you talk about highly touted athletic QBs of the past few years some names that come to mind are Vince Young, Xavier Lee, Ryan Perriloux, Michael Bush, and Tim Tebow. The ONLY one of those who contributed at QB as a Frosh was Tebow and to a much lesser extent Bush as a RB. All had great athleticism and cannon arms.
Granted, TP has some special measurables - particularly his speed. But the word "good" implies that he can play the position. And I haven't heard anybody saying he is an out of the box QB ala Mustain or Clausen.
Don't misread. I love TP and his potential. If you had said "rare for a guy to have the potential to be this good right off the bat" I would agree. But I didn't see anything in his HS videos to show me that he can read defenses, go through a progression or hit on a timing pattern. We don't even know how well he can run the option at this level.
The only thing anyone seems to have observed up to this point is a flawed delivery (a bit over the top).
And I am not so much replying to your post as the rampant implication that the only thing OSU needs to become a better team is for TB to pull up lame.
WyoBuckeye;1224682; said:Basically what I was trying to say is that if TP were were forced to play anything more than as a situational type of guy (ala Tebow in 2006) whatever the reason, I would be surprised if he was a stud right off the bat. I have no doubt that he has the potential and probably will be a hell of a situational threat this year. But in high level college football, and I am talking Top 25 football, to be a stud QB (in my book), you have to be able to be an aerial threat. I would be shocked if TP would be able to hone his skills to that level in just a short period of time.
Who says he needs to be a polished passer to make a part time impact this year?But I didn't see anything in his HS videos to show me that he can read defenses, go through a progression or hit on a timing pattern.
Your standards shifted quite radically there. What happened to evaluating his film? Pryor is about as good of a "out of the box option QB" as you can find. Sure, he may flop like any recruit, but if anyone can handle the option as a frosh, it's probably him.We don't even know how well he can run the option at this level.
WyoBuckeye;1224661; said:
BuckeyeTillIDie;1224727; said:
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How much difficult passing will Pryor actually need to do in order to make an impact?
Granted Pryor & Tebow are different athletes, and OSU has a lot better RB talent (not just at starter) than FL, but look at Tebow's passing statistics as a frosh.
SMU 0-0
UCF 6-9 (42-0 blowout).
TEN 0-0
UK 1-2
ALA 1-1
LSU 2-2 ... 2 td
AUB 0-0
UGA 0-0
VAN 1-3
USC 0-2
WC 10-12 (62-0 blowout)
FSU 0-1
ARK 0-0
OSU 1-1
Oh8ch;1224614; said:BTW BB - since you are online and the trivia expert around here.
What was the name of that potential OSU quarterback from Florida who decided to pursue a major league baseball career instead, then came back to OSU when it didn't work out?
I never hear anything about him anymore.
Says who? I understand he needs to develope and IMO isn't ready to start.. but how do you or anyone else know his arm is "iffy"Taosman;1224875; said:In a "goal line package" TP's arm will be fine. Anywhere else it's iffy.