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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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By all accounts Tim Tebow is a terrible practice player. When he is in the game on Sunday's, and all through college, his team wins. Period. That doesnt mean he isnt going hard all of the time, he's just a little off.

That could be what TP is experiencing or there could be a little blowback by the guys on the team to play the veterans, who knows. Palmer is hurt and isnt that good anyway. Leinart has always been crap. What is Terrelle Pryor in a game? Thats what we'd all like to find out.
 
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Bestbuck36;2281427; said:
By all accounts Tim Tebow is a terrible practice player. When he is in the game on Sunday's, and all through college, his team wins. Period. That doesnt mean he isnt going hard all of the time, he's just a little off.

That could be what TP is experiencing or there could be a little blowback by the guys on the team to play the veterans, who knows. Palmer is hurt and isnt that good anyway. Leinart has always been crap. What is Terrelle Pryor in a game? Thats what we'd all like to find out.
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Palmer isn't that good, really??? It may have something to do with Oakland having no o line and mediocre wrs. TP is still just an athletic trying to play qb. That may work in a college game against inferior competetion, but not in the league. TP still hasn't shown the skills to be a successful nfl qb which is why he's not getting any pt
 
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Bestbuck36;2281427; said:
By all accounts Tim Tebow is a terrible practice player. When he is in the game on Sunday's, and all through college, his team wins. Period. That doesnt mean he isnt going hard all of the time, he's just a little off.

That could be what TP is experiencing or there could be a little blowback by the guys on the team to play the veterans, who knows. Palmer is hurt and isnt that good anyway. Leinart has always been crap. What is Terrelle Pryor in a game? Thats what we'd all like to find out.
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Pryor was taken in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft. Tim Tebow was taken in the first round of the true draft. With all of that money invested in someone they are going to find out fast if he has what it takes. Tebow showed me more in college (passing-wise) than Pryor did so it doesn't surprise me how things have panned out. Pryor was always an elite athlete trying to play QB, Tebow was a system QB that played in a system that was perfectly compatible with his abilities. They're both still young so you never know what can happen.
 
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pnuts34;2281433; said:
Palmer isn't that good, really??? It may have something to do with Oakland having no o line and mediocre wrs. TP is still just an athletic trying to play qb. That may work in a college game against inferior competetion, but not in the league. TP still hasn't shown the skills to be a successful nfl qb which is why he's not getting any pt
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TP has that same crappy line and mediocre wr corps as well if the coaching staff would put him in.

I dont know how anyone can defend the Oakland coaching staff. Their coaching turnover rate is ridiculous. Its about as consistent as their seasons.

Besides, unless any poster is watching him practice, no one can comment on how he is or is not developing at practice and whether or not he is an NFL QB. The only thing we can go off of is his Sunday morning play time.
 
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zincfinger;2281392; said:
That's what I'm saying. Definitions may vary, but by mine, being able to throw the ball a country mile, in and of itself, does not qualify you as possessing one of the best arms in NFL history. There are plenty of other guys who could launch it, but also had far quicker releases and could deliver the ball more accurately.
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When someone talks about someone having one of the "best arms" ever, most people realize that person is talking about arm strength, nothing else.
 
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Oakland Raiders coach Dennis Allen says Terrelle Pryor not ready to be backup quarterback
By Jerry McDonald
[email protected]
Posted: 12/23/2012

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- While the Raiders were clearing out of the locker room Sunday, Carson Palmer was at a hospital, getting checked out before boarding the team charter headed back to Oakland after a 17-6 loss to the Carolina Panthers at Bank of America Stadium.

After taking a helmet to the back by defensive end Greg Hardy in the first quarter, Palmer's status is unclear for the season finale against the San Diego Chargers. X-rays on his ribs were negative.

If Palmer can't play, coach Dennis Allen made it clear the quarterback will be Matt Leinart, who struggled against the Panthers, and not Terrelle Pryor, who took three snaps in a specialty role.

"Matt's our backup quarterback," Allen said. "Terrelle's done a nice job. He's working extremely hard. We don't feel like he's ready to be the backup quarterback yet."

For now, Allen said, Pryor is best utilized with specific plays that suit his skills, rather than as an every-down quarterback in charge of managing a game.

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http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/...aiders-coach-dennis-allen-says-terrelle-pryor
 
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TP stated he would play receiver if that's what the Raiders wanted. In my opinion it's a waste of potential to leave him sitting on the bench when he has demonstrated his ability to catch and run, but not his ability to throw at the NFL level.
 
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TP stated he would play receiver if that's what the Raiders wanted. In my opinion it's a waste of potential to leave him sitting on the bench when he has demonstrated his ability to catch and run, but not his ability to throw at the NFL level.
 
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SEREbuckeye;2281438; said:
TP has that same crappy line and mediocre wr corps as well if the coaching staff would put him in.

I dont know how anyone can defend the Oakland coaching staff. Their coaching turnover rate is ridiculous. Its about as consistent as their seasons.

Besides, unless any poster is watching him practice, no one can comment on how he is or is not developing at practice and whether or not he is an NFL QB. The only thing we can go off of is his Sunday morning play time.
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I never defended the coaches. Matter of fact I definitely agree with your statement about their staff being constantly terrible. But if as a 3rd string qb you can't even make it on the field for more than a series a game, no one has to attend practices to deduce that TP isn't playing very good in practice and not developing all that well. Even when he's in the game the coaches barely let him throw. That speaks louder than anything. Hes not going to be taking much pt away from Palmer anytime soon
 
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cincibuck;2281461; said:
TP stated he would play receiver if that's what the Raiders wanted. In my opinion it's a waste of potential to leave him sitting on the bench when he has demonstrated his ability to catch and run, but not his ability to throw at the NFL level.
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You can say that again!
 
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Pryor, who simulated Panthers' quarterback Cam Newton on scout team, was actually downgraded in practice this week.
Asked about playing, Pryor was tight-lipped: "It's just playing football, you know? It's what I've been playing my whole life. It's something I like to do."
On what his plays showed: "I just do what I'm asked to do and that's it. Whatever I show, I show."
On if he thought he should have been used more: "I'm just a player. I don't have any expertise in coaching."
On if he expects to play more next week: "Not sure. I know I played three decent plays, but I didn't play a lot."
On how he seemed more upset than usual: "I'm upset that we lost. I think we should have won and more plays we could have made. But it's the game of football. They get paid just like us. Hats off to them. We'll go in next week and do the same thing and get back to week."
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http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/paul-gutierrez/allen-pryor-not-ready-be-backup-quarterback-yet

Obviously not happy about it but still playing the good soldier at least.
 
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Matt Lienart stinks. Pryor is even worse. That's why he gets no playing
time other than a play here and there. You can get away with the shortcomings
he had in college, but not in the NFL. Ask Tebow.

His only value, at this point would be to used as a receiver for jump balls in the end zone. I don't think he can be a wr.
 
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Pryor was a good passer in college....not great , but good. He was a great all around player and there is no dispute there.

TheRaiders have a horrible OL and Pryor's abilities to run would help the Raiders win games.

Brutus1;2281497; said:
Matt Lienart stinks. Pryor is even worse. That's why he gets no playing
time other than a play here and there. You can get away with the shortcomings
he had in college, but not in the NFL. Ask Tebow.

His only value, at this point would be to used as a receiver for jump balls in the end zone. I don't think he can be a wr.
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