QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[BuckeyeNation27]

to own his rights for next year.

 

[Flocka]

So where does the authority to suspend Pryor come from? According to NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, it comes from Article 8.6 of the NFL Constitution and By-Laws: “The Commissioner is authorized . . . to take appropriate steps as he deems necessary and proper in the best interests of the league . . . whenever any party or organization not a member of, employed by, or connected with the league or any member thereof is guilty of any conduct detrimental either to the league, its member clubs or employees, or to professional football.”

That’s a blank check to basically do whatever Goodell wants to do in any given situation, with no procedure for appeal or review.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/18/in-suspending-pryor-league-relied-on-general-provisions-regarding-detrimental-conduct/

 

[MaxBuck]

I'm not a big Pryor fan..but this is clearly collusion.

I think this is something that Pryor's group proposed to Goodell to get the NFL off the dime and let him be drafted. Rosenhaus's response, which was entirely free of the kind of aggressive language we're accustomed to hearing from him, is the reason I believe this is likely the case.

 

[AKAK]

I think this is something that Pryor's group proposed to Goodell to get the NFL off the dime and let him be drafted. Rosenhaus's response, which was entirely free of the kind of aggressive language we're accustomed to hearing from him, is the reason I believe this is likely the case.

I agree.

See, the problem with the "dangerous precedent" was a double edged sword. He was going to the NFL to escape the suspension, but his eligibility status hadn't changed when he hired an agent (etc. etc). But, if he had said, "Screw it"- knocked out his GF, smoked 10 pounds of crack and hung out with Nevin Shapiro and got kicked out of school, then hired Rosenhaus, he would have been fine.

 

[Flocka]

What would be the benefit of wasting a draft pick on him?

 

[zincfinger]

THey are punishing him for trying to undermine the supplemental draft. That's my understanding.

Yeah, that's what they said. But it isn't clear, to me at least, what feature of the supplemental draft they're trying to protect. As I understand it, the main reason for placing limitations on supplemental draft eligibility is to prevent players from abusing the supplemental draft in order to get out of "constraints" placed by the regular draft. Like Bosworth did when he skipped the regular draft and entered the supplemental in order to avoid playing for any of the perennial losers that had the earliest picks in the regular draft. And certainly one way a player could do that is by making a bogus claim to lost NCAA eligibility. But one would think the NFL would either view Pryor's claim of lost eligibility as bogus, or legitimate, and rule him ineligible or eligible accordingly. Instead, they seem to be saying that they're not sure, so they're going to cut the baby in half. It would seem to me to make more sense for them to make a determination one way or the other and rule accordingly.

 

[MaxBuck]

What would be the benefit of wasting a draft pick on him?

So you think he won't be a serviceable pro? I do. So I'd pick him, no later than 5th round. I think someone is likely to go as high as 3rd round on him.

 

[Flocka]

So you think he won't be a serviceable pro? I do. So I'd pick him, no later than 5th round. I think someone is likely to go as high as 3rd round on him.

Losing a pick from next year on someone who won't play this year is what jumps out at me. Especially when your goal is to turn said player into a back up or play him at a position he has never played.

 

[Gatorubet]

He would have been better off shooting up steroids or raping a girl at a bar in Georgia.

If had a dollar for every time I've said that in a recruit's living room....

 

[BengalsAndBucks]

Losing a pick from next year on someone who won't play this year is what jumps out at me. Especially when your goal is to turn said player into a back up or play him at a position he has never played.

You get him 9 months earlier, which means 9 months figuring out what he can do, giving him time to learn the playbook and adjust to NFL life, etc. Even if he doesn't play at all this year, you're getting a 9 month head start on drafting a player next year.

And Pryor is too great an athlete to not be at least decent at some position at this level.

 

[Flocka]

You get him 9 months earlier, which means 9 months figuring out what he can do, giving him time to learn the playbook and adjust to NFL life, etc. Even if he doesn't play at all this year, you're getting a 9 month head start on drafting a player next year.

And Pryor is too great an athlete to not be at least decent at some position at this level.

Don't get me wrong, I hope he succeeds, but spending a draft pick on someone who very well might be on the practice squad all year just seems crazy. I'm well aware he will get his shot, I just don't know about using a pick from next year on him. We will certainly see though if there are teams that just have to have him and will use a pick on him.

 

[BB73]

SI.blog

"You can't break rules that undermine the integrity of our eligibility rules and get a free pass into the NFL," league spokesman Greg Aiello tweeted after Thursday's ruling.

If that's the stance, where's the league going to draw the line now? It wasn't with Carroll or Bush. It wasn't with the other players in this year's supplemental draft, including Georgia's Caleb King, who flunked out of school and then immediately looked to the NFL. And it probably won't be with the plethora of former Miami Hurricanes implicated in this week's story about illicit interactions with a booster.

The problem with Thursday's ruling is that it created such a gray area. If, instead of waiting until June to leave OSU and start thinking about the NFL, Terrelle Pryor had just, say, skipped class from January to April, he'd apparently be just fine in the eyes of the NFL.

It seems like the league wanted to put its foot down here, either for its own dignity or to throw a bone to the NCAA, which is getting hammered with high-profile issues right now. How can all this start and end with Pryor, though? He's not the first, nor will he be the last, player or coach to circumvent problems in college by jumping to the pros.
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For whatever reason, the NFL only cares about Pryor's attempt.

Cont'd ...

 

[Crump's brother]

So you think he won't be a serviceable pro? I do. So I'd pick him, no later than 5th round. I think someone is likely to go as high as 3rd round on him.

He could be worth a 5-6 if you're in the NFC east and have to play Vick twice a year. I'm not saying he's Mike Vick, just saying he could give the starting D a good look in practice.

 

[dragurd]

It's not that he won't be a servicable pro. It's that his status relagates him to someone who will likely be on the practice squad. And giving up a draftpick for him only to cut him and hope he signs to your practice squad and not someone elses (From what I recall this isn't like baseball where you can just assign someone to your practice squad.) seem incredibly pointless.

 

[Buckskin86]

Here's a look at a handful of teams I'm hearing have interest in Pryor, perhaps believing he is one of those exceptions:

Buffalo Bills: This seems like a long shot now that versatile weapon Brad Smith is on the roster, but the Bills are still in the market for a long-term answer at quarterback, and Bills coach Chan Gailey enjoys working with athletic playmakers at the position.

Cincinnati Bengals: The Bengals like acquiring players from in-state schools (six are on their current roster), and Pryor's presence would generate some buzz in Ohio. He could compete with Jordan Palmer for the No. 3 job behind rookie Andy Dalton and Bruce Gradkowski, and Pryor could potentially contribute as a "slash"-type player on offense.

Cleveland Browns: The Browns clearly place a premium on athleticism at quarterback, and Pryor could legitimately push for the No. 3 job behind Colt McCoy and Seneca Wallace.

Indianapolis Colts: This isn't a likely destination, but the Colts lack quality depth behind Peyton Manning (current backups are Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky). Pryor would be forced to grow up in a hurry if he had to shadow Manning.

Miami Dolphins: Drafting Pryor would do nothing to solve Miami's starting quarterback issues. However, the team also lacks ideal depth behind starter Chad Henne and backup Matt Moore. Veteran Kevin O'Connell and rookie Pat Devlin are currently competing for the No. 3 job. Pryor's late start and five-week suspension likely would prevent him from winning the No. 3 job as a rookie, but he might find a way to hang on the roster for the final 11 games as a versatile offensive weapon.

Oakland Raiders: Owner Al Davis loves speed, and Pryor is fast. Enough said.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Josh Freeman has handled the NFL like a pro since day one, and he would be a great influence on Pryor. Josh Johnson is an athletic No. 2 quarterback with a great deal of potential, but there's no guarantee he will work out if called on to fill in for an extended period. The depth behind Freeman and Johnson is poor, to say the least. Pryor could essentially "redshirt" as a rookie, then compete for the backup job a year from now.

Washington Redskins: Coach Mike Shanahan loves quarterback projects, and he wouldn't shed a tear if he had to cut current No. 3 QB Kellen Clemens.

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