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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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jimotis4heisman;1937648; said:
could be. but, this was the worst kept secret in town. pryor was actively on the prowl at local businesses. imo, i am glad this all stopped where it did, this disaster could have/would have been worse by multiples had it been let to carry on.

another note is that todays dispatch is not your fathers dispatch, politically it may lean right on endorsing candidates for the statewide/national elections, but the day to day operations tend to be filled with nyt articles, and currently they are attacking/hitting kaisich relatively hard (in what i think has been some of their best work in awhile as far as "journalism" goes) beyond that they seem to have jumped on the anti downtown casino boat, and attempted to scare the world on new proposed ccw legislation. long story short, if you were in town ten years ago or more, the paper is not the same, moving more centrist, with even occasions left leaning spots/areas/stints, along with very little original content written by dispatch writers.

long story short, its a worthless nyt, ap, wire paper now with more than half of the editorials syndicated. the only reason i look at the thing is it has the only local hockey coverage.



could be, but everyone who didnt have their head buried ten feet deep in the sand knew this was going on to some extent or another. but yes, this is america, and the goal of american businesses is to sell their products to make money, but the dispatch owes the university nothing, and the dead honest truth is had the ship been clean, no dirt would have been found...
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Dont dissagree in the least....thats why I said there is a story here...at the same time I think there was a time when they would enable the program...I read the dispatch...I wanted those commemorative glasses


I'm also saying there is no noble cause here on the Wolfe families part to clean up the program....
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1937601; said:
I've been giving some thought to all the Dispatch bashing. Now, unless the way The Dispatch is run has changed drastically since I've been gone, there's no way that they press Ohio State this hard without John Wolfe's approval--if not active encouragement.

Could it possibly be that Wolfe (and some of the other so-called "titans") in town, want the football program and athletic department exposed and cleaned up because they feel it's in the best interest of Ohio State, which means that it's in the best interests of Columbus.
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Circulation has dropped from 200,000 in 2008 to 149,000 in 2011 (link). That means that circulation was 33% higher than today, just a little more than two years ago. And if they lose the rag, the Wolfe family loses an FTC exemption for newspaper and electronic media ownership that only exists because it predated present laws. And with the exemption goes some clout in powerful circles?

So, alternatively, it could it be that they are in, or would soon enter, financial difficulties. They are, after all, in a dinosaur industry.

Investigative journalistic values or survival motivations to leverage Ohio State's issues to boost internet advertising traffic (and ad revenue) increases, perhaps even as a prelude to selling out?
 
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Piney;1937599; said:
Looks like Pryor's 'lawyer' went off on the radio today... no direct link, but just a blog post from Dennis Dodd with some quotes...

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/29911819
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Re: James said he did not know that meeting would lead to his representation of the troubled former star. He went on to say that "most" of Pryor's wrongdoing is limited to the selling of memorabilia "when he was a freshman, 18 or 19 years old at a time".

Shit, (it keeps getting worse) seems to me that he is saying Pryor should have been ineligible to play (i.e. when NCAA violations occurred) during his freshman year.
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ScriptOhio;1937661; said:
Re: James said he did not know that meeting would lead to his representation of the troubled former star. He went on to say that "most" of Pryor's wrongdoing is limited to the selling of memorabilia "when he was a freshman, 18 or 19 years old at a time".

Shit, (it keeps getting worse) seems to me that he is saying Pryor should have been ineligible to play (i.e. when NCAA violations occurred) during his freshman year.
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Thats not what I got.....all I could think of was the Johnny Cochran character from Seinfeld
 
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Steve19;1937658; said:
Circulation has dropped from 200,000 in 2008 to 149,000 in 2011 (link). That means that circulation was 33% higher than today, just a little more than two years ago. And if they lose the rag, the Wolfe family loses an FTC exemption for newspaper and electronic media ownership that only exists because it predated present laws. And with the exemption goes some clout in powerful circles?

So, alternatively, it could it be that they are in, or would soon enter, financial difficulties. They are, after all, in a dinosaur industry.

Investigative journalistic values or survival motivations to leverage Ohio State's issues to boost internet advertising traffic (and ad revenue) increases, perhaps even as a prelude to selling out?
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One thing I don't understand about the business decision of the Dispatch to go after tOSU so hard is that, right now they might be selling some papers and getting some hits, but it seems short sighted. I think a good portion of hits and paper sales center around tOSU, and football in particular. I can't imagine readership is going to be doing too well in three years when bowl bans, coaching changes and scholarship reductions renders the on field performance to 6-6 or worse seasons.

They are shooting themselves in the foot.
 
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Pryor says no to Roughriders, CFL

COLUMBUS, Ohio. Terrelle Pryor isn't interested in playing in the Canadian Football League. He's also not interested in speaking to the NCAA. The former Ohio State quarterback announced Tuesday he would not return to Ohio State for his senior season in the wake of an NCAA suspension and ongoing investigation. The Saskatchewan Roughriders own the CFL negotiating rights to Pryor and had extended him a tentative offer.
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James also said that Pryor will no longer cooperate with NCAA investigators looking into Ohio State's football program, ex-players and current players. "He doesn't need a reason (to talk to them). He's no longer a student-athlete," said James, who added that Pryor doesn't feel he owes the NCAA any answers. "They're not going to give him or any other student-athlete any due process rights to speak of, so he's moved on." ​


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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../09/Terrelle.Pryor.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a4
 
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ScriptOhio;1937661; said:
Re: James said he did not know that meeting would lead to his representation of the troubled former star. He went on to say that "most" of Pryor's wrongdoing is limited to the selling of memorabilia "when he was a freshman, 18 or 19 years old at a time".

Shit, (it keeps getting worse) seems to me that he is saying Pryor should have been ineligible to play (i.e. when NCAA violations occurred) during his freshman year.
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The lawyer is denying the recent autograph sales alleged by the 'former friend' who talked on ESPN with his identity withheld. WIthout that, most of the known NCAA transgressions of TP are the things at the tattoo parlor, which although they were located in a raid in early 2010, were supposedly given to Rife in the spring of 2009, which would have been the end of TP's freshman year.

So I don't think that quote indicates that things are any worse for tOSU. But the checks supposedly deposited into TP's account in late 2010 make that quote appear to be just another lawyer denying wrongdoing on behalf of his client until the facts are proven beyond a reasonable doubt, rather than something to count on.
 
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bassbuckeye07;1937652; said:
Dont dissagree in the least....thats why I said there is a story here...at the same time I think there was a time when they would enable the program...I read the dispatch...I wanted those commemorative glasses


I'm also saying there is no noble cause here on the Wolfe families part to clean up the program....
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noble or not, hard to say. but when smoke is billowing a couple of miles north of headquarters its kind of hard to ignore.

Steve19;1937658; said:
Circulation has dropped from 200,000 in 2008 to 149,000 in 2011 (link). That means that circulation was 33% higher than today, just a little more than two years ago. And if they lose the rag, the Wolfe family loses an FTC exemption for newspaper and electronic media ownership that only exists because it predated present laws. And with the exemption goes some clout in powerful circles?

So, alternatively, it could it be that they are in, or would soon enter, financial difficulties. They are, after all, in a dinosaur industry.

Investigative journalistic values or survival motivations to leverage Ohio State's issues to boost internet advertising traffic (and ad revenue) increases, perhaps even as a prelude to selling out?
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i dont think an ftc exemption makes you "cool" as you suggest. owning two large tv stations in important markets (columbus and indy) probably have a bigger impact.

it depends on exactly how those circulations are counted, sometimes they include all freebies, and do or do not include web hits, app buys, etc.

the wolfe empire is larger than most think, from newspaper, to tv stations, to pro sports ownership, to real estate holdings, etc

Zander42;1937669; said:
One thing I don't understand about the business decision of the Dispatch to go after tOSU so hard is that, right now they might be selling some papers and getting some hits, but it seems short sighted. I think a good portion of hits and paper sales center around tOSU, and football in particular. I can't imagine readership is going to be doing too well in three years when bowl bans, coaching changes and scholarship reductions renders the on field performance to 6-6 or worse seasons.

They are shooting themselves in the foot.
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really? i mean come on. that is a joke, right?
 
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BB73;1937673; said:
So I don't think that quote indicates that things are any worse for tOSU. But the checks supposedly deposited into TP's account in late 2010 make that quote appear to be just another lawyer denying wrongdoing on behalf of his client until the facts are proven beyond a reasonable doubt, rather than something to count on.
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Exactly. Also, espn specifically stated that they've independently verified TP's purchases of luxury goods with a specific attraction to Gucci. Now I know the espn is everybody's villain, but they're not going to just add that out of thin air knowing TP has an attorney in a position to call them on it.

There seems to be a paper trail on this one from the checks to the purchases to the tickets for Talbott to the AD's decision to disassociate him from the program. I think if Larry James denials had any teeth to them, he wouldn't need to be slamming the race card down on the table.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1937679; said:
There seems to be a paper trail on this one from the checks to the purchases to the tickets for Talbott to the AD's decision to disassociate him from the program. I think if Larry James denials had any teeth to them, he wouldn't need to be slamming the race card down on the table.
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Couple of things that I need clarification on:

I believe that Brooks is the only source that talks about checks, and he only says they were "seen". Seen by whom? Bankers? Ohio State? The NCAA? "Al's Buckeye Cash Advance And Check Cashing Emporium" staff members?

Brooks also says that the University has been informed of these violations by the NCAA... do we have any confirmation? If so, who discovered these- the University, the NCAA, or others (media)?

Seems like there's still some unanswered questions that might be impacting our speculation on this matter... not that it changes the fact that there's something that needs to be fixed.
 
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MaliBuckeye;1937685; said:
Couple of things that I need clarification on:

I believe that Brooks is the only source that talks about checks, and he only says they were "seen". Seen by whom? Bankers? Ohio State? The NCAA? "Al's Buckeye Cash Advance And Check Cashing Emporium" staff members?

Brooks also says that the University has been informed of these violations by the NCAA... do we have any confirmation? If so, who discovered these- the University, the NCAA, or others (media)?

Seems like there's still some unanswered questions that might be impacting our speculation on this matter... not that it changes the fact that there's something that needs to be fixed.
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The NCAA cant check bank accounts....schools can...if this is true it was handed over to the NCAA by the school not the other way around...im not saying this doesnt have legs but brooks has been wrong alot and he doesnt care
 
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