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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

DEBuckeye;1937612; said:
There it is- the "race card". Been waiting for that....

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In response to Mr. James Esq. I'm sure the university (and TP's academic advisers) would have loved to hook him up with some well educated, community leader African-Americans as role models and mentors. YOUR CLIENT had other ideas. HE chose to look towards some nappy-headed, tat shop owning mother fuckers for guidance. It's not like Ohio State kept TP away from people like you, which is the contention that I'm reading between the lines of your bullshit.
 
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DEBuckeye;1937612; said:
There it is- the "race card". Been waiting for that....
Yup! Me & my old man had a $1 bet on how long it would take for that attorney to pull that card. He felt it would be pretty soon just based off of his previous clients and his cup of tea being "civil rights." Sickening.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1937601; said:
I've been giving some thought to all the Dispatch bashing. Now, unless the way The Dispatch is run has changed drastically since I've been gone, there's no way that they press Ohio State this hard without John Wolfe's approval--if not active encouragement.

Could it possibly be that Wolfe (and some of the other so-called "titans") in town, want the football program and athletic department exposed and cleaned up because they feel it's in the best interest of Ohio State, which means that it's in the best interests of Columbus.


I dont think so....its not that complicated, its well documented how much trouble they have had with subscription and hits...they had an all out campaign to drive subscription two years ago that failed they were everywhere...even throwing in Ohio State commemerative glasses and stuff...they need hits and to sell papers and there is a story here..It would be nice to think they want to clean it up but I think they just want to make a come back
 
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bassbuckeye07;1937624; said:
I dont think so....its not that complicated, its well documented how much trouble they have had with subscription and hits...they had an all out campaign to drive subscription two years ago that failed they were everywhere...even throwing in Ohio State commemerative glasses and stuff...they need hits and to sell papers and there is a story here..It would be nice to think they want to clean it up but I think they just want to make a come back

Doesn't necessarily need to be either/or. Business issues could very well be happily coinciding with Wolfe's editorial stance on the matter.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1937615; said:
In response to Mr. James Esq. I'm sure the university (and TP's academic advisers) would have loved to hook him up with some well educated, community leader African-Americans as role models and mentors. YOUR CLIENT had other ideas. HE chose to look towards some nappy-headed, tat shop owning mother fuckers for guidance. It's not like Ohio State kept TP away from people like you, which is the contention that I'm reading between the lines of your bullshit.

Eddie Rife is "nappy-headed"?
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1937626; said:
Doesn't necessarily need to be either/or. Business issues could very well be happily coinciding with Wolfe's editorial stance on the matter.

I'd bet Pete Rose $50 that bassbuck is much closer to being spot on than any type of noble cause by Wolfe.
 
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Gatorubet;1937526; said:
How about you provid a link that shows how the Gainesville press and the Florida Journalism School Woodward wanna-be's publication, The Independent Florida Alligator*, are deficient in meeting standards of reporting and investigative journalism. Ya know - while we're being open-minded about this.

And I like your thought process. An absence of my providing proof of a recent local feeding frenzy like you are currently experiencing supports Josh's statement that our press is complicit in allowing violations to remain hidden rather than bite the hand that feeds it... Because the highly publicized fall of a college football icon like Jim Tressel is a story that happens so often in Gainesville that the local press should have numerous similar examples to draw from. :slappy:

Can we agree then Steve, that the absence of a local Columbus feeding frenzy during the first ten years of Tressel's career indicates that the local Columbus press covered up Buckeye wrong-doing by virtue of non-reporting and a failure to investigate rather than bite the hand that feeds it?

No? It only works one way? Got it.


* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Independent_Florida_Alligator

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Let me try to color inside the lines more explicitly, okay. There has been a rash of arrests of Florida football players during the last decade that certainly must be among the highest of any university in the country, ever. Now, an interesting phenomena is that they have something like a 70% chance of not being prosecuted.

It's really a very simple request that I make. You make that point that there is no evidence that the press in Gainesville is any less aggressive than the press in Columbus. It's really a rather explicit point you make...a point that concerns coverage of Florida football.

Who said anything about a local coach falling like Jim Tressel? Why do you raise that issue, if not to erect the straw man that you build?

Having made the claim of an equally aggressive media, it should be relatively easy for you to show one instance--just one--where the Florida media filed freedom on information requests and climbed in with both boots on and began to visit players, coaches and perhaps law enforcement at their homes.

My friend, I'm not busting your chops. But let's be clear that the burden of proof lies--with you. You are the one who claims that there "zero evidence" to suggest that a lack of reporting can be alleged. Notwithstanding the nod to impossibility, you are the one who alleges no difference in coverage and that the local media aren't burying stories.

As for the strawman you build, it is understandable that you weren't around here very long. Actually, the Columbus media feeding frenzy has never stopped, just varied in intensity. Prior to the national championship, there was nonstop speculation about drunk driving arrests and the like. The problem paled when compared to Florida, Iowa, or Penn State today, but it only ended with the national championship. That was followed by nearly two years of MoC and the aftermath. Just find the threads on BP. There was a breather after Ohio State was exonerated of the MoC allegations, which he now admits were lies.

So, my point is very clear and I will await your answer with an open mind.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1937601; said:
I've been giving some thought to all the Dispatch bashing. Now, unless the way The Dispatch is run has changed drastically since I've been gone, there's no way that they press Ohio State this hard without John Wolfe's approval--if not active encouragement.

Could it possibly be that Wolfe (and some of the other so-called "titans") in town, want the football program and athletic department exposed and cleaned up because they feel it's in the best interest of Ohio State, which means that it's in the best interests of Columbus.

could be. but, this was the worst kept secret in town. pryor was actively on the prowl at local businesses. imo, i am glad this all stopped where it did, this disaster could have/would have been worse by multiples had it been let to carry on.

another note is that todays dispatch is not your fathers dispatch, politically it may lean right on endorsing candidates for the statewide/national elections, but the day to day operations tend to be filled with nyt articles, and currently they are attacking/hitting kaisich relatively hard (in what i think has been some of their best work in awhile as far as "journalism" goes) beyond that they seem to have jumped on the anti downtown casino boat, and attempted to scare the world on new proposed ccw legislation. long story short, if you were in town ten years ago or more, the paper is not the same, moving more centrist, with even occasions left leaning spots/areas/stints, along with very little original content written by dispatch writers.

long story short, its a worthless nyt, ap, wire paper now with more than half of the editorials syndicated. the only reason i look at the thing is it has the only local hockey coverage.

bassbuckeye07;1937624; said:
I dont think so....its not that complicated, its well documented how much trouble they have had with subscription and hits...they had an all out campaign to drive subscription two years ago that failed they were everywhere...even throwing in Ohio State commemerative glasses and stuff...they need hits and to sell papers and there is a story here..It would be nice to think they want to clean it up but I think they just want to make a come back

could be, but everyone who didnt have their head buried ten feet deep in the sand knew this was going on to some extent or another. but yes, this is america, and the goal of american businesses is to sell their products to make money, but the dispatch owes the university nothing, and the dead honest truth is had the ship been clean, no dirt would have been found...
 
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