QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[3074326]

Numby, if you don't wish to be tarred with this brush, your solution is simple: once you are employed as a sportswriter, don't stoop to the level that these worthless imbeciles have. I have great respect for Mike DeCourcey and Ivan Maisel, because they have the decency to not dump all over young athletes and the competency to do actual journalism.

I agree that it's ridiculous to expect these bozos to not ask the questions they are asking; it would be like expecting bonobos to not throw their shit all over the place. At the same time, I'm not going to demur from commenting upon their unethical, useless prattle.

As long as you're not putting the label on the entire profession, I'm not going to disagree with you. Like I said, I don't agree with the way some of these guys go about their business.

That being said, I think asking the people involved with these problems about the problems is valid. It really can't be ignored. The baiting, bashing, etc. I don't agree with.

But my main point all along is that TP should just use Tressel-speak and not give anyone anything to write about. It would be best for him, the team and the school.

 

[utgrad73]

Good Lord, is TP living in a fish bowl always in the spot light and under the micro-scope? Give the kid a break! He may not say the right things all the time, but he will certainly do or say something when he's treated like a circus act. I'm sure I speak for the Buckeye nation when I say
I've had enough.

Pryor said he doesn't remember the circumstances of him signing his jersey, but "I sign a lot of stuff for Buckeye fans - I don't like to turn down fans. But I don't do it to get any favors or discounts."

 

[cbrian815]

I have friends who dont have much of a filter....I have a sister who has no filter....and then there is Coach Tressel who filters everything. TP doesnt have a filter, just let him be himself, which I am fine with. He wears his heart and emotions on his sleeve, those in the media know it. TP is who he is and I dont see that changing anytime soon. Go Bucks

 

[Colvinnl]

I have friends who dont have much of a filter....I have a sister who has no filter....and then there is Coach Tressel who filters everything. TP doesnt have a filter, just let him be himself, which I am fine with. He wears his heart and emotions on his sleeve, those in the media know it. TP is who he is and I dont see that changing anytime soon. Go Bucks

Your point is a good one to a certain degree and I'll be the first to say that I appreciate it when a public figure is honest. However, if a public figure really does not have a filter that person is best off keeping their trap shut if he or she wants to remain a public figure.

 

[Nicknam4]

TP just isn't a good polititian, which can be good or bad depending on your opinion. It can be a good quality if you want to be a leader, though.

 

[MaxBuck]

...I think asking the people involved with these problems about the problems is valid. It really can't be ignored. The baiting, bashing, etc. I don't agree with.

But my main point all along is that TP should just use Tressel-speak and not give anyone anything to write about. It would be best for him, the team and the school.

First, let me say that the tone I used in several posts here doesn't advance the discussion, and from here on out I'll try hard to be less harsh.

Second, I need to put you on the spot, since you wish to be a sportswriter. And that is by asking this: what purpose do you believe is served by asking Pryor about the incident? Are you trying to get admissions that what he did went well beyond what the NCAA knows about? If so, the questions don't lend themselves to such discovery. Are you trying to establish that Pryor is a liar, disingenuous, or otherwise of poor character? I don't agree that such revelation about a collegiate athlete is appropriate journalism. Just what is it that questioning Pryor in this manner is intended to do?

Third, you (and many others here) seem to be treating Pryor's behavior during the press con as some sort of "test," which he has failed by being insufficiently Tressel-like. Again, I believe this is an inappropriate objective for a press conference; they should not be designed to "reveal" a lack of PR ability by college athletes. This sort of thing is, I suppose, inevitable for professional athletes, but I personally think collegians should not be subjected to this kind of third-degree by the press.

Bottom line for me is this: this is lazy "journalism" that substitutes for hard work on the part of those who engaged in it, who could (and should) instead have found insights into bowl preparation from an Xs and Os perspective. We'd be better off if such interrogation didn't happen IMO.

 

[Systems_id]

I honestly wish Pryor would just go pro. Not because I feel he's damaging Ohio State but because he doesn't need this shit. What's he coming back for? To sit out five games over something as ridiculous as selling your own stuff? For getting a discount (a fucking discount) over some tattoos? To have to listen to the media drag your name through the mud and write a hit piece if you so much as breath the wrong way? If he is some how projected to be a first round draft pick then I hope he cuts his losses and goes. Sure he'd be breaking a promise but with the way the majority of Buckeye Nation has shit all over him, it doesn't matter.

People are going to hate Pryor regardless, might as well get paid while getting hated.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

From the article:
"Kniffin said that while working at Maxton he allowed Pryor to drive his SUV to his hometown in Pennsylvania so that his mother could check it out."

Let me know if you can find a dealer who will let you "check out" a car for a weekend and take it on a 400 mile trip...

every car dealership in my home town would let me do that because I know them. several times we borrowed a minivan to road trip to the first 2 rounds of NCAA games.....so 400 miles for 5 days at a time, for free, with no intention of buying.

 

[cjmik_75]

I honestly wish Pryor would just go pro. Not because I feel he's damaging Ohio State but because he doesn't need this shit. What's he coming back for? To sit out five games over something as ridiculous as selling your own stuff? For getting a discount (a fucking discount) over some tattoos? To have to listen to the media drag your name through the mud and write a hit piece if you so much as breath the wrong way? If he is some how projected to be a first round draft pick then I hope he cuts his losses and goes. Sure he'd be breaking a promise but with the way the majority of Buckeye Nation has shit all over him, it doesn't matter.

People are going to hate Pryor regardless, might as well get paid while getting hated.

I highly doubt he's projected as a first round pick plus there's no garuntee he starts or even plays in the Sugar Bowl to up his draft stock. Am I the only one that noticed one of his answers (video from buckeye grove) was about how he and the other suspended players still didn't know if they'd even play?

The leaving early (for the NFL) should've been put to bed after the promise but I guess we'll re-hash it over and over until the draft has come and gone.

They promised they'd come back...now they're just liars? Hmmmkay

 

[SEREbuckeye]

IMO I don't think it's a good idea for him to get into a verbal battle with anyone. Especially someone who works at ESPN. Taking the high road has no negatives.

So what you are saying is that its okay for you and I to get ridiculed by others, but when a kid - a 20something year old kid - is getting bashed in the media for 3 years straight, he shouldn't say anything?

God, this would is getting soft. First you can't hit the QB on the field, now if you verbally hit the QB off the field, in a presser, he is just supposed to sit there?

I say Pryor has taken more than his fair share of crap the last 3 years and answered with enough PC, Tressel-like responses. Sometimes a man reaches a boiling point with his pride and reputation, you can't be walked all over by the media forever.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

...you can't be walked all over by the media forever.

Many athletes do and have very successful careers despite it.

 

[SEREbuckeye]

Many athletes do and have very successful careers despite it.

Many athletes don't and have very successful careers. Athletes are individual people like you and I, so bashing on their careers and their livelihood eventually reaches a boiling point.

 

[Tlangs]

I didn't read the Plain Dealer piece buy my dad called me and was bashing the writer big time, and he isn't the biggest TP fan.

He said there was comments about how his record as a starter means nothing and he piles up stats against cream puffs and that his record would be worse if Tressel didn't "protect" him by not starting in the fiesta bowl against Texas.


Yeah, JT knew we were going to lose that game so he started Boekman to "preserve" Pryor's record as a starter. What a jackwagon.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

I honestly wish Pryor would just go pro. Not because I feel he's damaging Ohio State but because he doesn't need this shit. What's he coming back for? To sit out five games over something as ridiculous as selling your own stuff? For getting a discount (a fucking discount) over some tattoos? To have to listen to the media drag your name through the mud and write a hit piece if you so much as breath the wrong way? If he is some how projected to be a first round draft pick then I hope he cuts his losses and goes. Sure he'd be breaking a promise but with the way the majority of Buckeye Nation has shit all over him, it doesn't matter.

People are going to hate Pryor regardless, might as well get paid while getting hated.

He is coming back because he has not developed enough to be a drafted as a QB in the league.

Whereas I think the kids should be able to sell their own property, weather they received it from the university or the bowl game swag, I think there does need to be a line drawn with the "fucking discounts" that football players get. How soon do we go from "fucking discounts" to Free Shoe University?

 

[matcar]

First, let me say that the tone I used in several posts here doesn't advance the discussion, and from here on out I'll try hard to be less harsh.

Second, I need to put you on the spot, since you wish to be a sportswriter. And that is by asking this: what purpose do you believe is served by asking Pryor about the incident? Are you trying to get admissions that what he did went well beyond what the NCAA knows about? If so, the questions don't lend themselves to such discovery. Are you trying to establish that Pryor is a liar, disingenuous, or otherwise of poor character? I don't agree that such revelation about a collegiate athlete is appropriate journalism. Just what is it that questioning Pryor in this manner is intended to do?

Third, you (and many others here) seem to be treating Pryor's behavior during the press con as some sort of "test," which he has failed by being insufficiently Tressel-like. Again, I believe this is an inappropriate objective for a press conference; they should not be designed to "reveal" a lack of PR ability by college athletes. This sort of thing is, I suppose, inevitable for professional athletes, but I personally think collegians should not be subjected to this kind of third-degree by the press.

Bottom line for me is this: this is lazy "journalism" that substitutes for hard work on the part of those who engaged in it, who could (and should) instead have found insights into bowl preparation from an Xs and Os perspective. We'd be better off if such interrogation didn't happen IMO.

I think it's a misperception to state that it's lazy journalism and that they should seek insight in the form of X's & O's discussion and disregard this huge news item. Xs-n-O's aren't what Joe Fan is interested in. So, while there could be SOME discussion of that, I cannot see any scenario where these topics wouldn't be covered by any journalist. Now, whether TP or any other players give them anything worth quoting is their own business...