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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

Colvinnl;1846323; said:
It may have been completely okay in the eyes of the NCAA...but it was close enough to not being okay that TP should have known better than to do it without checking with compliance.

But how is it okay? Would this dealership let me "check out" a car for a weekend??

How is it okay? His car was there getting warranty work done. It's fairly routine to get a loaner car if the required repairs take more than one day to complete.
 
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Colvinnl;1846323; said:
It may have been completely okay in the eyes of the NCAA...but it was close enough to not being okay that TP should have known better than to do it without checking with compliance.
What dosen't sound good is that there was a letter in JULY alleging the same thing that they got busted for: trading autographs for services/discounts. The dispatch article goes on to say their are autographs from TP, Boom, & Posey on site.
 
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buck1973;1846335; said:
How is it okay? His car was there getting warranty work done. It's fairly routine to get a loaner car if the required repairs take more than one day to complete.

From the article:
"Kniffin said that while working at Maxton he allowed Pryor to drive his SUV to his hometown in Pennsylvania so that his mother could check it out."

Let me know if you can find a dealer who will let you "check out" a car for a weekend and take it on a 400 mile trip...
 
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Colvinnl;1846348; said:
From the article:
"Kniffin said that while working at Maxton he allowed Pryor to drive his SUV to his hometown in Pennsylvania so that his mother could check it out."

Let me know if you can find a dealer who will let you "check out" a car for a weekend and take it on a 400 mile trip...

If I was a car dealer, i would do anything to sell a denali in this market.
 
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Colvinnl;1846348; said:
From the article:
"Kniffin said that while working at Maxton he allowed Pryor to drive his SUV to his hometown in Pennsylvania so that his mother could check it out."

Let me know if you can find a dealer who will let you "check out" a car for a weekend and take it on a 400 mile trip...

When I was in the Army at Ft. Lewis in the mid 90's, I was thinking about buying a used truck at a nearby dealer. Early on a Saturday morning, they let me take it to a local garage to get it checked out. This garage told me it was in great condition, but for some reason I still didn't feel good about it. A friend's father lived nearby and built custom racing engines for a living. I contacted him and he said he could not check it out until Sunday. This dealer was closed on Sunday so they let me keep the truck until Monday. I did not drive it 400 miles, but the dealer did not give me any restrictions. So yes, it is possible if they think you are serious about buying the vehicle.
 
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When Bobby Petrino was being keelhauled by ESPN and everyone else for nearly three years, every time he was asked about it, his response was something like "I don't have time to pay attention to any of that, I've got too much work to do".

I don't claim any special insider info, but I pay pretty close attention to things. I know he heard what they were saying and I know it bothered him. But he kept his mouth shut about it and stuck to his knitting. To his credit, he never once took the bait the media was dangling in front of him - although it must have been really tempting to do so.

Bobby Petrino is a grown man (he's 40), but I have to wonder why Coach T (also grown; 40) doesn't lay the law down to Terrelle Pryor about stuff like this.

Anyone with half a brain and one eye saw those questions coming from 40 miles away. In light of all the controversy, Pryor's responses are mystifying to me.

So, there are a few options here:

I - No one on at OSU saw those questions coming and Pryor was caught unawares. UNPOSSIBLE to believe.

B) Tressel (or staff) didn't prepare him - which I find hard to believe. Tressell is a smart, classy guy who is always prepared for anything thrown his way. He is nothing if not fully prepared at all times.

3: Tressel (or staff) did prepare him and Pryor just ignored it. I think this is the most plausible scenario. If true, then I have to think that something isn't right on the coach/player relationship front, and I'd bet my mortgage that it isn't due to Jim Tressel not doing everything he can possibly do.

So here's my theory:

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Jim Tressel is likely exasperated with Terrell Pryor and all the drama he generates. Because Coach Tressel is such a fine, standup man, and to his credit, he believes that he can continue to make a positive impact on TPs life, development and maturity. If anyone can do it, it's Tressel.

But that has to be a two-way relationship. Pryor has to want those things, and accept responsibility for his part in making improvements on and off the field, and he has to put in the work to do it. I have to wonder at this point if that will ever happen despite of everything his coaches can do for him.

I doubt any of us really know the dynamics of the relationship between Tressel and Pryor, but it seems to me as if Pryor doesn't have a genuine, deep-down respect for Coach Tressel.

I also don't know if Terrelle had any strong male role models in his life before he arrived at OSU, but he sure comes across as a kid that didn't, and one that has fallen for all the adulation that has come his way over the years for his skills at athletics.
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I'd be shocked if JT didn't try to teach TP how to handle the media, but I'd also be shocked if TP just blatantly ignored it. I have no idea how to feel about that. Agree with what TP said or not, what he's done lately is not what we're used to from someone groomed by JT.
 
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It's a lot easier for a sports "journalist" to bait inexperienced young men on the podium by asking leading, incendiary questions about [Mark May] they've already discussed ad nauseum than it is for said sports "journalist" to dig up real news, or to develop incisive commentary on the actual game. Sports "journalists" being fundamentally lazy twits (otherwise they'd be able to secure a real job), they take the easy route.

Simply put.
 
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MaxBuck;1846406; said:
It's a lot easier for a sports "journalist" to bait inexperienced young men on the podium by asking leading, incendiary questions about [Mark May] they've already discussed ad nauseum than it is for said sports "journalist" to dig up real news, or to develop incisive commentary on the actual game. Sports "journalists" being fundamentally lazy twits (otherwise they'd be able to secure a real job), they take the easy route.

Simply put.

Couldn't disagree more. It's not the writers' fault that TP gives them tons of quotable material that he doesn't have to give. He got himself into this situation. They're reporting on what everyone is talking about. If nobody was reading these stories, they wouldn't be asking about them.

Sports writing is a real job, by the way. Just because you look down on it doesn't mean people don't want to do it. I plan on being a sports writer. I also consider it a real job. What's better than watching and talking about sports for a living?
 
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3074326;1846413; said:
Couldn't disagree more. It's not the writers' fault that TP gives them tons of quotable material that he doesn't have to give. He got himself into this situation. They're reporting on what everyone is talking about.

If nobody was reading these stories, they wouldn't be asking about them.

Sports writing is a real job, by the way.
1. I beg to disagree that gossip-mongering and picking at scabs by badgering interviewees is the appropriate job of a true journalist.

2. Since item 1 is what most sports pundits do, most of the time, they are not true journalists.

3. Sportswriting is a real job (as typically practiced today) in the same way exotic dancing is a real job. It's populated by individuals looking for a cheap easy buck who can't get it any other way. Sportswriters have the real advantage that they don't need to pony up $5k for a set of false tits.

4. As regards the "if nobody were reading these stories" comment, I guess you must hold the staff at National Enquirer in high regard. They occupy the same general stratum as sportswriters. Lots of people read that crap, too.
 
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3074326;1846413; said:
Couldn't disagree more. It's not the writers' fault that TP gives them tons of quotable material that he doesn't have to give. He got himself into this situation. They're reporting on what everyone is talking about. If nobody was reading these stories, they wouldn't be asking about them.

Sports writing is a real job, by the way. Just because you look down on it doesn't mean people don't want to do it. I plan on being a sports writer. I also consider it a real job. What's better than watching and talking about sports for a living?

 
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MaxBuck;1846421; said:
1. I beg to disagree that gossip-mongering and picking at scabs by badgering interviewees is the appropriate job of a true journalist.

2. Since item 1 is what most sports pundits do, most of the time, they are not true journalists.

3. Sportswriting is a real job (as typically practiced today) in the same way exotic dancing is a real job. It's populated by individuals looking for a cheap easy buck who can't get it any other way. Sportswriters have the real advantage that they don't need to pony up $5k for a set of false tits.

4. As regards the "if nobody were reading these stories" comment, I guess you must hold the staff at National Enquirer in high regard. They occupy the same general stratum as sportswriters. Lots of people read that crap, too.

This is going to go nowhere very fast, so I'm just going to ignore your totally ignorant and condescending comments about the profession.

I find it hilarious that the journalists are at fault for TP's problems. They're asking questions. He doesn't have to answer. I don't agree with the way some of them go about things, but it's ridiculous to expect them to not ask. Why can't fans just accept that maybe, just maybe, OSU football players sometimes make bad decisions and they need to either not make these bad decisions, or say "no comment?" It's always someone else's fault.
 
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3074326;1846426; said:
This is going to go nowhere very fast, so I'm just going to ignore your totally ignorant and condescending comments about the profession.

I find it hilarious that the journalists are at fault for TP's problems. They're asking questions. He doesn't have to answer. I don't agree with the way some of them go about things, but it's ridiculous to expect them to not ask. Why can't fans just accept that maybe, just maybe, OSU football players sometimes make bad decisions and they need to either not make these bad decisions, or say "no comment?" It's always someone else's fault.
Numby, if you don't wish to be tarred with this brush, your solution is simple: once you are employed as a sportswriter, don't stoop to the level that these worthless imbeciles have. I have great respect for Mike DeCourcey and Ivan Maisel, because they have the decency to not dump all over young athletes and the competency to do actual journalism.

I agree that it's ridiculous to expect these bozos to not ask the questions they are asking; it would be like expecting bonobos to not throw their shit all over the place. At the same time, I'm not going to demur from commenting upon their unethical, useless prattle.
 
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