QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[utgrad73]

here's an outside the box option.......redshirt next year and come back to win the Heisman in 2012.

I couldn't stand to watch him pace the sidelines or hear about his success as the QB on the scout team. But, I think there is a valuable lesson here, TP needs a dose of humble pie. Could be this be his biggest life lesson taught by the team that gave him the opportunity to be the best? Redemption is more than beating the team that beat you last year, it is also the act of soul searching and atoning for past mistakes (whether they are real or perceived). The media blows this out of proportion because none of them walk in his shoes. They don't truly understand him. I hope he returns and works on his leadership in the 5 games off if he can't work on his long ball and play on Saturday.

That would speak volumes about his character and leadership as an NFL prospect.

 

[Taosman]

Perhaps fans invest too much in these kids? Believing them super human and not just a talented kid who is going through a process.
The NFL lost a lot for me when "Free Agency" came about. I don't want to see the college game go that way. Obey the rules. The NCAA needs to enforce the rules in effect and close any "loopholes".

 

[tundra1]

here's an outside the box option.......redshirt next year and come back to win the Heisman in 2012.

For a redshirt, you have to sit out a full year where you could have been eligible to play games, right? I'm guessing that even if he did redshirt, that wouldn't take care of his suspension--the NCAA wouldn't grant him extra eligibility in part because he sat out games where he would have been suspended.

Put it another way--if the NCAA suspended these players for a full season, I don't think that they could simply redshirt. I think the NCAA's punishment would be to have them on the field only 3 years during their college careers.

So if any of these players redshirt--I'd think that the NCAA would make them sit out games in 2012 to fulfill their suspension...which defeats the purpose of redshirting.

 

[Mike80]

here's an outside the box option.......redshirt next year and come back to win the Heisman in 2012.

Now THAT would really screw with some people

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

For a redshirt, you have to sit out a full year where you could have been eligible to play games, right? I'm guessing that even if he did redshirt, that wouldn't take care of his suspension--the NCAA wouldn't grant him extra eligibility in part because he sat out games where he would have been suspended.

Redshirting only means that you didn't play in a season. If he sat out the rest of 2011 after serving his five-game suspension, that becomes his redshirt year. The NCAA is only suspending him for those five specific games...what happens outside those games is up to Pryor and the staff.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

Redshirting only means that you didn't play in a season. If he sat out the rest of 2011 after serving his five-game suspension, that becomes his redshirt year. The NCAA is only suspending him for those five specific games...what happens outside those games is up to Pryor and the staff.

I thought the traditional redshirt is used before he plays any games, as for incoming freshmen. I don't think you can redshirt someone if they have already played in a game. A medical redshirt could be used anytime during a players career if they get injured and have to miss an entire season.

 

[scarletngray]

here's an outside the box option.......redshirt next year and come back to win the Heisman in 2012.

I've been saying this from the get go. I think if the 5 games hold up and tOSU loses their appeal to the NCAA, that the best option for all the players (with the exception of Whiting) is to take a red shirt. None of them are ready for the NFL. Playing half a season will not help any of them get ready for the NFL. Any other option is a disaster waiting to happen, IMHO.

Now, if the suspensions are reduced to just 2-3 games then I think that they all sit out and return after game 2-3. Five games is a lost season.

:osu:

 

[buxfan4life]

I thought the traditional redshirt is used before he plays any games, as for incoming freshmen. I don't think you can redshirt someone if they have already played in a game. A medical redshirt could be used anytime during a players career if they get injured and have to miss an entire season.

I beleive a redshrit year could be used at anytime during the "5 to play 4" years of eligibility.

Bino has redshirted this year after seeing time on ST his freshman year, and it was not a medical issue either.

 

[osugrad21]

I thought the traditional redshirt is used before he plays any games, as for incoming freshmen. I don't think you can redshirt someone if they have already played in a game. A medical redshirt could be used anytime during a players career if they get injured and have to miss an entire season.

Nah, you can redshirt one time at any time within your 5 to play 4.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

Nah, you can redshirt one time at any time within your 5 to play 4.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I just figured it was only used for the first year type of thing.

 

[JBaney45]

Redshirting only means that you didn't play in a season. If he sat out the rest of 2011 after serving his five-game suspension, that becomes his redshirt year. The NCAA is only suspending him for those five specific games...what happens outside those games is up to Pryor and the staff.

But the games might count as "playing" time if that makes sense. He could sit for the rest of the year but if they count him as "playing" in 5 games that's too many to take a red shirt.

Not 100% sure how that works out..wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't really address it given how many loopholes there seems to always be in there rules.


Of course he could always decide to play basketball instead :/

 

[Meyer]

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I just figured it was only used for the first year type of thing.

That's typically how it is but not always.

Sabino redshirted this year and he wasn't a freshman. I'm sure you knew that.

 

[n8butch]

i may be in the minority on this board, but i support Pryor...he sold items that belonged to him..bad buckeye for selling items you and i might hold at a higher value than a mere couple hundred dollars....maybe, but i have not lived his life, i do not know of his family hardships, maybe he felt selling those items were the lesser of the two evils? but the bottom line is this kid has his future throw up in the air for selling items given to him....they were his, and he could do what he wanted with them...NCAA got this one wrong.....just my opinion...the punishment does not fit the crime in my eyes, as a parent i used the "what would you do" theory, if this was my kid....pay back, sit the bowl game, these are the rules, do you understand? next time your done! my eight year old said it best..."dad, that is stupid!"....sorry fellas i'm just frustrated and honestly i just having a hard time understanding it all......full support TP!

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I thought the traditional redshirt is used before he plays any games, as for incoming freshmen. I don't think you can redshirt someone if they have already played in a game. A medical redshirt could be used anytime during a players career if they get injured and have to miss an entire season.

You can redshirt any year...you just can't redshirt a season in which you've played, except for cases of injury that occur before 30% of the season has passed.

 

[SilkKnight]

Only in the NCAA can you be fine if your dad tries a pay for play scheme but get suspended if you sell a jersey you own to help your family