QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[Fungo Squiggly]

Well my question is, why is Tressel so afraid to use Pryor?

Pryor doesn't get recruited as the Number 1 prospect in the Nation and then just give us what he's given us thus far. It seems to me that two thins they are doing which is harming him is;

1. Trying make Pryor a Pocket Passer at the Expensive of his natural ability to Run.

2. Protecting him from 'INTs' by never letting him throw down field (Posey is open more times then not, I know Pryor's accuracy isn't the best, but have him work on that instead of outside hooks for 7 yards.)

Option Plays, Trick Plays, Plays that have J. Hall involved, this has got to help out Pryor.

Thankfully thought Pryor showed this weekend a very good ability to throw the ball away instead of forcing things which aren't there. That helps the team and the Defense all around.

1. Pryor came to OSU to learn to be a pocket-passer, not to run the WVU spread.

2. Tressel values ball control and avoiding turnovers over just about everything else. If the defense is controlling the opponent and the offense is moving the ball on the ground, sometimes you don't need to take any unnecessary risks.

He seemed better at the long ball earlier in the season as well. The last couple of weeks he has been horrible with the long ball. He is over throwing people by a long way and is not even close. I am not sure what is with that.

In regards to his accuracy on the deep pass...he threw 2 (3?) against PSU - connecting on one and just missing Sanz before the half. None against Iowa that I recall. Missed long on both attempts yesterday. The first was well long, but the second looked to be only 1-2 yards overshot. He fought under-throwing the deep ball earlier this year and is now fighting over-throwing it.

 

[muffler dragon]

im sorry but i dont spend my whole life on buckeyeplanet

Neither do I. But you HAVE been on here since the New Mexico game. I've even seen you post since people have talked about Terrelle's physical ailments along with the manner in which he has conducted himself differently since Purdue. There are manifold reasons as to how he has changed his game in the second half of this season.

 

[jlb1705]

Against RR's scUM teams, I'm not sure if past Buckeyes would allow that to count.

It seems to me like TP is on the opposite end of the "Michigan-killer" spectrum than Troy Smith was.

Sure, TP made soem very good runs and moved the chains several times by his running, but the passing and all that goes with that was very scary throughout.

Even if he wins all four - and he darn well should - it doesn't appear he will come close to destroying scUM like Troy did.

When did we get in the business of putting asterisks next to wins against M*ch*g*n? He hasn't been Troy Smith, but he hasn't been Stanley Jackson either. 2-0 in The Game for Pryor is a feather in his cap.

 

[buckeyes_rock]

When did we get in the business of putting asterisks next to wins against M*ch*g*n? He hasn't been Troy Smith, but he hasn't been Stanley Jackson either. 2-0 in The Game for Pryor is a feather in his cap.

LOL...exactly...doesn't matter how you win in The Game. Just matters that the Buckeyes win. I don't remember anyone asking how well Tippy Dye played in his wins over scUm. All that matters is being the starting QB on a team that beats scUM! :)

 

[Merih]

When did we get in the business of putting asterisks next to wins against M*ch*g*n? He hasn't been Troy Smith, but he hasn't been Stanley Jackson either. 2-0 in The Game for Pryor is a feather in his cap.

It's a damned team game...just because he didn't put up ridiculous numbers doesn't mean that his wins don't count.

 

[Mac]

I can't believe we are still arguing that Pryor isn't being used to his best ability. Football isn't about individual stats. So what if he goes 9/17 67yrds...did you not see our run game yesterday?? Really didn't HAVE to throw the ball much. A win is a win, and Pryor is 2-0 against that team up there.

No reason to keep going on and on about something that technically ISN'T broken. But this talk is getting really old.

 

[scarletngray]

I can't believe we are still arguing that Pryor isn't being used to his best ability. Football isn't about individual stats. So what if he goes 9/17 67yrds...did you not see our run game yesterday?? Really didn't HAVE to throw the ball much. A win is a win, and Pryor is 2-0 against that team up there.

No reason to keep going on and on about something that technically ISN'T broken. But this talk is getting really old.

Amen and Amen!!

First, TP has two more years to develop into a Troy Smith like QB. Will he? Who knows. But for those who are doing so, let's not write down his fate before his CFB career is over. That's only fair.

Second, anyone who doesn't understand or appreciate Tresselball will never be satisfied with a victory. It's about winning. Not stats.

:osu:

 

[buckeyes_rock]

I can't believe we are still arguing that Pryor isn't being used to his best ability. Football isn't about individual stats. So what if he goes 9/17 67yrds...did you not see our run game yesterday?? Really didn't HAVE to throw the ball much. A win is a win, and Pryor is 2-0 against that team up there.

No reason to keep going on and on about something that technically ISN'T broken. But this talk is getting really old.

My how the times have changed. The Bucks are getting so good at beating scUM that now we actually care HOW the Buckeyes beat TSUN!

 

[Buckeye513]

Really didn't HAVE to throw the ball much.

Eventually he's going to have to, probably January 1st. Efficiently. All over the field. People are still arguing about it because he hasn't shown the ability to do that and J.T. hasn't shown that he trusts him enough to do it.

 

[Mac]

Eventually he's going to have to, probably January 1st. Efficiently. All over the field. People are still arguing about it because he hasn't shown the ability to do that and J.T. hasn't shown that he trusts him enough to do it.

I agree he will have to Jan. 1st, but there really isn't a WHOLE lot of reason to get on Pryors case for yesterday's performance. He ran the ball hard, the backs ran the ball hard, and when we HAD to, Pryor made some decent throws.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Well my question is, why is Tressel so afraid to use Pryor?

Pryor doesn't get recruited as the Number 1 prospect in the Nation and then just give us what he's given us thus far. It seems to me that two thins they are doing which is harming him is;

1. Trying make Pryor a Pocket Passer at the Expensive of his natural ability to Run.

2. Protecting him from 'INTs' by never letting him throw down field (Posey is open more times then not, I know Pryor's accuracy isn't the best, but have him work on that instead of outside hooks for 7 yards.)

Why does every n00b start with a post in this thread questioning JT's use of Pryor?

Ya know, before you make a post like this, you might want to do a bit of fact checking first.

For his two-year Buckeye career, Terrelle Pryor has 4,477 total yards of offense, which places him #11 on the Buckeyes' career total yardage list. The Buckeyes' career leader is Art Schlichter, with 8,850 total yards. If Pryor plays at the same level over the next two years, with no improvement whatsoever, then he will pass Schlichter and become the Buckeyes' career total yardage leader.

This year, Terrelle Pryor has 2,535 total yards, which is the fifth-best single season for a Buckeye. By comparison, Troy Smith had 2,893 total yards in 2005, and 2,746 total yards in his Heisman season of 2006. Pryor has one game remaining this season, and if he hits his average of 211 total yards per game, then he will have out-performed Smith during his Heisman season.

By the way, as a sophomore, Smith had just 1,235 total yards, which is less than half of what Pryor has gained so far during his sophomore season. And if it matters at all, Smith had 14 yards of total offense during his freshman campaign, compared to 1,942 for Pryor.

As far as big plays are concerned, in 2009, Pryor has thrown eight touchdown passes of 20 yards or more, four of which were for 50 yards or more. In his Heisman year of 2006, Smith threw nine touchdown passes of 20 yards or more, only two of which were for 50 yards or more.

As far as rushing goes, Smith rushed for 1,168 yards in his Buckeye career, while Pryor has already rushed for 1,338 yards.

This season, Pryor is leading the team in rushing with 707 yards. The last quarterback to lead Ohio State in rushing was Les Horvath, during his Heisman campaign way back in 1944.

So, Terrelle Pryor's performances so far compare him favorably with two Buckeye Heisman trophy winners ... and he is on pace to become Ohio State's all-time leader in total yardage.

So, three questions back at you: (1) Where is your evidence that Tressel is "afraid" to use Pryor? (2) Why are you complaining that Pryor has "just" given Ohio State 4,477 total yards in two years? (3) How can you complain about Tressel "[t]rying make Pryor a Pocket Passer at the Expensive [sic] of his natural ability to Run" when Pryor has already out-rushed Troy Smith, Ohio State's most noted "dual-threat" quarterback?

Don't let the facts get in your way, okay?

 

[BUCKYLE]

 

[leroyjenkins]

lol holy shit. pwned.

 

[shetuck]

Why does every n00b start with a post in this thread questioning JT's use of Pryor?

Ya know, before you make a post like this, you might want to do a bit of fact checking first.

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Don't let the facts get in your way, okay?

Your're just having fun at the kid's expensive. He was just trying to say that JT needs to open up his playbook...

 

[osucollegebuck]

Your're just having fun at the kid's expensive. He was just trying to say that JT needs to open up his playbook...

No he would only be expensive if he went to USC or Miami.