QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[EastCoastScout]

Sandgk, consider it squashed. Chalk it up as a misunderstanding.

I kinda took things personally, and really never considered your response as nothing more than a personal attack. I see where your coming from, and apologize for being offensive.

 

[sandgk]

Sandgk, consider it squashed.

I kinda took things personally, and really never considered your response as nothing more than a personal attack. I see where your coming from, and apologize for being offensive.

EastCoastScout - you are most welcome.

Moreover, be at ease, you are always welcome here.

 

[ant80]

I posted a (secondhand) story along those lines on 5/11 on the BN $ board (Weis-Pryor Morsel). It either takes a special brand of arrogance or a lack of preparation to approach Pryor like that, imo. It has been quite clear during his recruitment that he sees himself as a QB all the way. I can't imagine that they did not learn such a preference in past recruiting calls/texts.

I am going for the former. I am really leery of posting this here, but I ran across the following post over on IrishEnvy.

The story going around here in the Cardinal Mooney circles is that, when Charlie made a visit to the school, he left some bad impressions with the staff and the some of the faculty of the school. It's all the hub-bub around here that Charlie is kind of a "so and so", which is certainly surprising considering the strong love that ND gets around here.

Just passing it along. I graduated from Cardinal Mooney (Kyle and Danny's school), my cousin is best friends with Kyle, and I know that whole situation pretty well. Take it for what it is. Not trying to stir the pot or anything, just saying that Charlie's personality can rub people the wrong way.

And a couple of posts later, this.

I don't know if it had any effect on Danny's recruitment, but this incident was recently when he came to visit him. I guess he was really pushing the coaching staff at Mooney as to why this wasn't over yet. I dunno, just what I hear.

I don't want to start anything, and mods, please delete if inappropriate (or move if that would be better). Just curious jwinslow, have you heard of anything to this effect?

 

[cheetah]

This is the guy who is friends with Pryor's dad so this makes it very interesting:

Keystone Recruiting’s source, however, revealed that he believes Ohio State “has a slight lead.”

http://www.pghsports.com/PSR-News/s...full&id=1181353971&archive=&template=Keystone

 

[Buckeyecty4]

I think it's interesting that it says (in regards to WV).. He knows Josh Jenkins who is going there... Interesting..

 

[craigblitz]

Pretty good article there Cheetah thanks for posting. The way offenses stand now I would say Texas, Florida, and WVU would be a good fit for him. Texas because they had a similar player, Florida because Myers system, and WVU in the way they have used Pat White.

I also found the basketball comment interesting, as many have said, I do not see how you can compete to be a starting QB and play another sport. I know Charlie Ward did and Ronald Curry, so I guess it is possible.

 

[Muck]

The way offenses stand now I would say Texas, Florida, and WVU would be a good fit for him.

But not a post Troy Smith Ohio State offense?

(Genuinely curious, couldn't tell if you meant those three schools were the best fit from an offensive standpoint or if you meant schools besides the Buckeyes)

 

[OSU SPORTS]

Although WVU's offense is suited to Pryor's skill level, I'm not so sure the WVU system prepares you for the NFL. These guys want to go to the NFL and IMO WVU's system is not that kind of system. Texas, on the other hand, can showcase Vince Young as their poster boy. Brown is also a great recruiter. I would say one thing, it's a L-O-N-G time before signing day. I think you are seeing him soften his position on playing basketball and staying close to home. I wouldn't count out Tenn and Ga Tech. I do know one thing, this thread is going to be huge by signing day.

 

[buzzy420]

Although WVU's offense is suited to Pryor's skill level, I'm not so sure the WVU system prepares you for the NFL. These guys want to go to the NFL and IMO WVU's system is not that kind of system. Texas, on the other hand, can showcase Vince Young as their poster boy.

This is nonsense. Texas's offense didn't prepare VY for the NFL, and the rumors about his wonderlic score only confirmed suspicions that the Texas offense was "dumbed down" for him. Put VY in the hillbilly offense and he would have been just as prepared (or unprepared if you prefer) for the NFL as he was coming from Texas.

Furthermore, any offense that is tailored to Pryor's abilities won't prepare him for the NFL because it will be oriented to his running abilities instead of his abilities as a drop-back QB. Given Pryor's lousy stats as a passer, it appears at this time it would be insane to do otherwise. So unless NFL offenses decide to start running the option or putting in designed QB runs because they want to give opposing defenses the opportunity to clobber their high priced QB, then Pryor won't be prepared for the NFL either. He could get drafted highly anyway if he has VY kind of talent no matter which school he goes to.

 

[OmahaBeef]

Furthermore, any offense that is tailored to Pryor's abilities won't prepare him for the NFL because it will be oriented to his running abilities instead of his abilities as a drop-back QB. Given Pryor's lousy stats as a passer, it appears at this time it would be insane to do otherwise. So unless NFL offenses decide to start running the option or putting in designed QB runs because they want to give opposing defenses the opportunity to clobber their high priced QB, then Pryor won't be prepared for the NFL either. He could get drafted highly anyway if he has VY kind of talent no matter which school he goes to.

I guess that makes me wonder since I havn't really heard any more than he's a "mobile" QB, what kind of quarterback is Pryor? If he came would we run more called QB running plays than what we saw with Troy? How proficient of a passer is Pryor? Just curious, because in the reading I've done I've just heard mainly about how great the kid is, and how he's mobile but havn't heard a whole lot about his passing ability.

 

[IrishCalves]

I guess that makes me wonder since I havn't really heard any more than he's a "mobile" QB, what kind of quarterback is Pryor? If he came would we run more called QB running plays than what we saw with Troy? How proficient of a passer is Pryor? Just curious, because in the reading I've done I've just heard mainly about how great the kid is, and how he's mobile but havn't heard a whole lot about his passing ability.

From the film I've viewed, he is an average passer. The film on him isn't the best quality - a lot of ground level shots that don't really give you the best view of how an entire play develops - so it may not reveal the whole picture, but I've never seen a lot of zip on his passes. His most impressive passes are deep lobs that are jump ball situations. He is not a polished passer, whatsoever IMO.

And the stats this guy put up through the air aren't overwhelming either. He completed 92 of 163 passes for 1,732 yards, and threw for 15 touchdowns to 11 INT's. I know he's only a junior, but for all the Vince Young comparisons they aren't quite there if you ask me. Vince threw 35 TD's to 4 INT's as a senior. Physically, they compare. But developmentally? Not so sure. Again, HS statistics should be taken with a large grain of salt. But they do serve as some level of indicator.

So, Pryor is a very rare athlete, but to be frank I think him not focusing as much on football has hurt him developmentally at QB. I know he's prioritized hoops over football in the past, and I think it shows. So to me, I'd love to see him focus on football, and truly utilize his God given abilities, particularly in the passing game. He's definitely a high upside talent, with work that needs to be done.

 

[osugrad21]

Rivals $ (Bama)

Terrelle says distance will not be a factor and he is interested in seeing which of his remaining schools has been honest with him in terms of two sports, playing only QB, and depth charts.

 

[westbuck04]

He's got a lot of potential as a passer, but because he has so little experience at the position, he's pretty raw; I know he doesn't want to redshirt, but he (like most incoming quarterbacks) could use it.

He has a pretty strong arm when he sets his feet, and shows pretty decent accuracy for someone raw. He also shows a very quick release. Also had solid passing numbers last year, and should be better this year with the coaching he's receiving.

 

[OSU SPORTS]

I think he will soften his position on a redshirt year, once he gets to college. Most kids have no idea what it takes to play QB at a major college. At this point he is raw, in terms of passing, but he is a playmaker. To me, that's more important than stats. He can lead a team and make others around him better.

 

[tlinc]

I think it's interesting that it says (in regards to WV).. He knows Josh Jenkins who is going there... Interesting..

You can sometimes get in trouble trying to read between the lines of recruiting stories, but I think that a lot of the information out there bodes very well for us at this point, for example:

-A lot of different sources now are saying that OSU may be a slight leader for Pryor. I know these are generally somewhat anonymous reports, but it is nice that they all point towards OSU. Unlike a lot of other big recruits in years past (Anthony Davis, AJ Wallace, Justin Boren, Fred Davis, Mark Sanchez, etc.), it really doesn't seem like fans from any other team out there are overly confident or hearing especially encouraging things that seem to contradict this perspective.

-He also talks about who has been most honest to him about depth charts, whether he can play QB, etc. Tressel is known as one of the more honest guys recruiting wise. He gets knocked by some of the fringe OSU fans for not just telling recruits whatever they want to hear (you'll start as a freshman, etc.). I'm sure Tress is telling him honestly that he'll be able to play QB. The Buckeyes under Tressel have been most successful having mobile QBs (Troy Smith and Craig Krenzel) who can throw it but also run well. In recent years, we have seen that a great defense, good O line, solid but unspectacular passing game, good RB and good running QB can win you a championship. With the exception of USC most of the recent champions have shown this (Florida with Tebow/Leak, Texas with Vince, Bucks with Krenzel).

So he knows his style can win at a place like OSU and OSU knows it too. He is also being told honestly that he is the only QB being looked at this year. And that we didn't take any QBs last year. And that he will have a decent chance to start early in his career if he can beat out Antonio Henton who could potentially be very good but shouldn't scare a guy with Pryor's abilities too much.

Then look at other schools recruiting him. ND never has running QBs. If they are telling him he has a good chance of beating out Claussen anytime soon, then that's not super true. Same with Michigan and Mallett. Florida and Texas run the right type of offense but stud sophomore QBsTebow and McCoy aren't giving up their jobs anytime soon.

-I think some of the talk about him being friends with Jenkins is encouraging. As noted it is generally believed that Pryor likes the Buckeyes and it adds up a bit that if he is possibly a lean maybe Jenkins is too. If some of the rumors about Jenkins are true (he really likes the Bucks, talks to some of our commits almost daily, etc.), it may make sense that these guy's best chance of playing together (and with some of the other friends they have made) may be at OSU. It would add up since Brewster, Jenkins, Adams, Stoney, Goebel all seem tight and all seem to have possibly been working on getting Pryor here and starting to become friends with him as well.