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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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FrancisSawyer;1544056; said:
Horrible sums it up I think. That offense sucked ass and if we hadn't had an all-time defense and a lot of luck, we would have lost half of our games.
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go back and watch the NC game. our offense did OK against the "greatest team ever". we did have a good running game. O line was good. CK came through when needed. you can't be just lucky to go 14-0

As far as Pryor goes... he needs to mature first. He always wants to show the world what he can do. I have watched him live 3 times already. Yet I have been more impressed with two other Freshman QBs and their game managing skills (PSU Pat Devlin and USC Barkley). Both beat him too.
I am not saying Pryor is not good. He has far better tools than anyone in college football at the moment. But he's got to let that ego go and go at it.
I do know that we are talking about 20 year old kids. sometimes it takes time.
 
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Terrelle Pryor's QB coach on his growth, his footwork, bouncing back from the USC loss and more
by Doug Lesmerises, The Plain Dealer
Thursday September 17, 2009

Ohio State quarterbacks coach Nick Siciliano answered many questions about sophomore quarterback Terrelle Pryor and the Buckeyes' offense on Wednesday. Several answers appeared in my story on Pryor today, but here are some other topics from the interview.

On Pryor growing into the quarterback job at Ohio State

"Everything changes when there's 105,000 people in the stands. There's a lot of pressure there. This is the hardest job in the state, I don't care what anybody says. It's harder being the quarterback here at Ohio State than it is being the Cleveland Browns quarterback or the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback. All eyes are on you."

On Pryor's footwork and the times when he throws off his back foot

"His footwork has been very good actually. There's going to be times for every quarterback where you have to stand in there and throw the football down the field and there are times when your feet aren't going to be in perfect position and you still have to make the throw. Those are the hard ones."

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On Pryor's ability to call audibles from run plays to other run plays on from run plays to pass plays

"Any time we're able to go from run to run, or run to pass, there's enough trust for him to be able to do that. We've had no problem since last year giving him some run stuff or run to pass stuff. It's what we can handle as an offense.
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Terrelle Pryor's QB coach on his growth, his footwork, bouncing back from the USC loss and more - cleveland.com
 
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Re: It's harder being the quarterback here at Ohio State than it is being the Cleveland Browns quarterback or the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback. All eyes are on you."

Very true, really now how hard is it to be the Brown's quarterback? Brady Quinn is doing it.

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TP will be fine, like Siciliano said he's only a true Soph, each practice and each game is a new learning experience for him. The Offense will be running like clockwork by the midpoint of the season. I just wish we could've played USC a little later in the year, it would've been a better outcome for us, IMO!
 
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i think pryor's biggest problem has been his reluctance to run. it seems to me that it has been more important to him to become a pocket passer than to simply win games. i'm not trying to slam TP in anyway, i'm just trying to point out his mistake. he needs to grow and EVENTUALLY become a passer if he wants to make it at the next level, but that's not going to change over the course of one off season.

i think he needs to realize he's going to be a four year quarterback here, sit back, work his butt off, and win games. by the time he's a senior he'll have all the tools and he'll be a great passer, he just needs to relax and use what he has right now. besides, wouldn't it help his pass game if TP could establish run game anyways? i dont think a run first mentality is really all that bad.

there are no games to look forward to right now since PSU is still 7 weeks away. we're going to get into a rhythm, TP is going to have a chance to really take control of this offense and by the time we get to PSU we're going to be a different team hitting on all cylinders.
 
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martinss01;1544445; said:
so its your opinion that there was significant yardage available for pryor had he decided to run the ball against usc?
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It's been noted by a few posters in this thread and the USC game thread that lanes were available and in particular lanes were available when balls were thrown to receivers that were covered.

Significant yardage? 3rd and 5. If the lane is there tuck the damned ball and move the chains. Football 101. Any yardage that nets a first down is significant yardage to me.
 
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One play in particular sticks out to me, 3rd and goal in the 3rd quarter, TP rolled to his left and had a WIDE OPEN track to the endzone, but decided to underthrow Dane and ended up getting a FG. That play sticks out to me personally, because I believe in all my heart that would have put the game away. Can't go back in time, so BRING ON TOLEDO!!!
 
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martinss01;1544445; said:
so its your opinion that there was significant yardage available for pryor had he decided to run the ball against usc?
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Yes. Terrelle locks on receivers and forces throws vs. letting plays develop and taking what is given to him.

He passed up several opportunities to tuck and run but threw the ball instead. His 3rd and 6 low throw to Posey on the sideline was another opportunity for him to bust it upfield and take the first down. Instead he threw an uncatchable ball.....

Even his good throws were first reads...the Dane Sanzenbacher catch and run, the Posey catch over Malcolm Smith...first reads. If the first read isn't there, its been serious trouble...

I'm all for simplifying the offense and making things easy on Terrelle, but this currents system just isn't a great fit. And I personally don't see it getting much better unless they tailor the offense to our players strengths....just an opinion, I know a lot of people think there is a massive amount of development in the near future for Terrelle...
 
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Things I would tell Pryor if I talked to him:

1- If your receiver is covered and you can't run, throw the ball away.

2- If you think you can get more than five yards by running the ball on a pass play and none of the receivers are WIDE open run it.

3- If you start running don't stop. If all you have in front of you is a safety run his ass over don't try to stop and cut.

4- Step into your throws. If your feet are right next to each other and/or you are on your toes you aren't doing it right.

5- You are 6'6" 240. You can run people over if you put your mind to it. There is nothing wrong with you running the ball as the QB. Especially at this point of your career.
 
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Not a bad game today, but man has his footwork gotten ugly. He showed some really nice throws (the comeback to Posey, for example) where he stepped into the throw. He also showed a lot of throws where he planted his feet right next to each other and just armed it down the field - which lead to floating, off target passes. His footwork seems to have regressed from last year - he's got the arm, but he's gotta get his feet right.
 
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I think TP did some very good things today. I also think he had some things that he needs to get better at. I was impressed with some of his tight passes. To echo what was said earlier, I think he is trying too hard to be a pocket passer. With a kid like Pryor, he has probably been able to do whatever he puts his mind to from an athletic standpoint in his life. He wants to be a great passer, you can see that. He will get there, he's probably a little stubborn about it at times. Until then, there will be a few growing pains along the way. That being said I'll take 262 yards passing, 3 passing TD's, 110 yards rushing, and a rushing touchdown. I tend to think that offsets the picks and questionable decisions. :wink2:
 
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