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QB/WR Braxton Miller (B1G POY, National Champion, OSU HOF)

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Just glad Brax is ok and will be at the helm on Saturday.

I know that tackle has sparked quite a bit of discussion, but to me it just looked like football. I really don't see where a penalty could have been called on it. The DB was just trying to make a tackle to save a TD, nothing intentional about it. Football is a rough sport, people get hurt. When you're on the field you do what you gotta do and sometimes somebody gets dinged up. I'm just glad he's only dinged and not hurt bad.
 
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TooTallMenardo;2241066; said:
"He was giving him the business!!!" - YouTube

See what I did there? :biggrin:
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Maybe I need to go back to 7th grade, but what made it even funnier was that #69 was giving him the business.

As for Braxton, I am guessing he truly is 100% and symptom free or else KG would be playing. Either way, I do think he is all around best option to win but obviously I am more than ok with KG coming in, even if it gives Braxton's wheels a breather.
 
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I'm not one who thinks Braxton is soft or anything like that. I am one who knows something about "whiplash" injuries, and there are so many things here that do not add up that I don't know where to begin.

1) The mechanism of injury is not consistent with whiplash - which is a hyperflexion/hyperextension injury in the common sense of the term. Braxton went down on his left side - with the left shoulder and head impacting the ground. This could lead to injury to the shoulder girdle, neck, and head - but not a whiplash in the sense that term is generally applied.

2) The amount of time he was on the field, and the way he acted afterward would lead one to think head injury/concussion - which is consistent with what you see on the replay. If it is not that, then the only explanation is that there was an emotional response/fear reaction to the injury.

3) The hospital cleared him of head injury and any significant neck or shoulder conditions, and we are told that it was just "whiplash" and he can play. So the best explanation (head injury), considering the mechanism of injury, was ruled out by the hospital - which I have 100% confidence in. But then we are given a "diagnosis" that doesn't fit the mechanism of injury. Then the diagnosis is further described as a "sore neck" - which is reasonable, but doesn't fit how he acted after the injury.

I have to conclude that either Braxton is really injured, but for whatever reasons the injury is being denied, or the post-injury behavior was exaggerated and not representative of the actual type and severity of the injury. Either way we have a problem - either a physical problem, a psychological one, or a combination.

We won't know until Sat night. If he doesn't play, we will know that the OSU coaching staff was just messing with PSU and their preparation. If he does play, takes a hard hit to the head and goes out, then they are playing a hurt guy. If he takes a bunch of good hits, pops up and plays the whole game, he may have just let his fear get the better of him.

But I'm telling you, what I saw, and what has been put out there about this, does not add up.
 
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OSUK;2241916; said:
I'm not one who thinks Braxton is soft or anything like that. I am one who knows something about "whiplash" injuries, and there are so many things here that do not add up that I don't know where to begin.

1) The mechanism of injury is not consistent with whiplash - which is a hyperflexion/hyperextension injury in the common sense of the term. Braxton went down on his left side - with the left shoulder and head impacting the ground. This could lead to injury to the shoulder girdle, neck, and head - but not a whiplash in the sense that term is generally applied.

2) The amount of time he was on the field, and the way he acted afterward would lead one to think head injury/concussion - which is consistent with what you see on the replay. If it is not that, then the only explanation is that there was an emotional response/fear reaction to the injury.

3) The hospital cleared him of head injury and any significant neck or shoulder conditions, and we are told that it was just "whiplash" and he can play. So the best explanation (head injury), considering the mechanism of injury, was ruled out by the hospital - which I have 100% confidence in. But then we are given a "diagnosis" that doesn't fit the mechanism of injury. Then the diagnosis is further described as a "sore neck" - which is reasonable, but doesn't fit how he acted after the injury.

I have to conclude that either Braxton is really injured, but for whatever reasons the injury is being denied, or the post-injury behavior was exaggerated and not representative of the actual type and severity of the injury. Either way we have a problem - either a physical problem, a psychological one, or a combination.

We won't know until Sat night. If he doesn't play, we will know that the OSU coaching staff was just messing with PSU and their preparation. If he does play, takes a hard hit to the head and goes out, then they are playing a hurt guy. If he takes a bunch of good hits, pops up and plays the whole game, he may have just let his fear get the better of him.

But I'm telling you, what I saw, and what has been put out there about this, does not add up.
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I get what you're saying but did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
 
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TS10HTW;2241920; said:
I get what you're saying but did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
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LOL. No. I actually have some initials after my name and a quarter century working with this stuff. Which only means I'm only wrong slightly less than your typical guy. :)

But seriously, things add up or they don't. This thing doesn't.
 
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OSUK;2241916; said:
I'm not one who thinks Braxton is soft or anything like that. I am one who knows something about "whiplash" injuries, and there are so many things here that do not add up that I don't know where to begin.

1) The mechanism of injury is not consistent with whiplash - which is a hyperflexion/hyperextension injury in the common sense of the term. Braxton went down on his left side - with the left shoulder and head impacting the ground. This could lead to injury to the shoulder girdle, neck, and head - but not a whiplash in the sense that term is generally applied.

2) The amount of time he was on the field, and the way he acted afterward would lead one to think head injury/concussion - which is consistent with what you see on the replay. If it is not that, then the only explanation is that there was an emotional response/fear reaction to the injury.

3) The hospital cleared him of head injury and any significant neck or shoulder conditions, and we are told that it was just "whiplash" and he can play. So the best explanation (head injury), considering the mechanism of injury, was ruled out by the hospital - which I have 100% confidence in. But then we are given a "diagnosis" that doesn't fit the mechanism of injury. Then the diagnosis is further described as a "sore neck" - which is reasonable, but doesn't fit how he acted after the injury.

I have to conclude that either Braxton is really injured, but for whatever reasons the injury is being denied, or the post-injury behavior was exaggerated and not representative of the actual type and severity of the injury. Either way we have a problem - either a physical problem, a psychological one, or a combination.

We won't know until Sat night. If he doesn't play, we will know that the OSU coaching staff was just messing with PSU and their preparation. If he does play, takes a hard hit to the head and goes out, then they are playing a hurt guy. If he takes a bunch of good hits, pops up and plays the whole game, he may have just let his fear get the better of him.

But I'm telling you, what I saw, and what has been put out there about this, does not add up.
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Considering how important Braxton Miller is to this offense the next two years, when things actually count for realsies, I doubt they're taking any chances with his long term health to win a game in a season that won't result in a Big Ten title, a bowl game or a National Title.

Based on what's been said by the coaching staff and reported in various media, I'm going with option C: he may have just let his fear get the better of him.

I think we'll see him play, and play well, this week.
 
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OSUK;2241916; said:
I'm not one who thinks Braxton is soft or anything like that. I am one who knows something about "whiplash" injuries, and there are so many things here that do not add up that I don't know where to begin.

1) The mechanism of injury is not consistent with whiplash - which is a hyperflexion/hyperextension injury in the common sense of the term. Braxton went down on his left side - with the left shoulder and head impacting the ground. This could lead to injury to the shoulder girdle, neck, and head - but not a whiplash in the sense that term is generally applied.

2) The amount of time he was on the field, and the way he acted afterward would lead one to think head injury/concussion - which is consistent with what you see on the replay. If it is not that, then the only explanation is that there was an emotional response/fear reaction to the injury.

3) The hospital cleared him of head injury and any significant neck or shoulder conditions, and we are told that it was just "whiplash" and he can play. So the best explanation (head injury), considering the mechanism of injury, was ruled out by the hospital - which I have 100% confidence in. But then we are given a "diagnosis" that doesn't fit the mechanism of injury. Then the diagnosis is further described as a "sore neck" - which is reasonable, but doesn't fit how he acted after the injury.

I have to conclude that either Braxton is really injured, but for whatever reasons the injury is being denied, or the post-injury behavior was exaggerated and not representative of the actual type and severity of the injury. Either way we have a problem - either a physical problem, a psychological one, or a combination.

We won't know until Sat night. If he doesn't play, we will know that the OSU coaching staff was just messing with PSU and their preparation. If he does play, takes a hard hit to the head and goes out, then they are playing a hurt guy. If he takes a bunch of good hits, pops up and plays the whole game, he may have just let his fear get the better of him.

But I'm telling you, what I saw, and what has been put out there about this, does not add up.
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I get what you are saying, but you weren't the one to examine Braxton. The doctors examined him thoroughly, and they cleared him. I know there are a lot of good medical professionals around. So don't worry so much.
 
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ant80;2241940; said:
I get what you are saying, but you weren't the one to examine Braxton. The doctors examined him thoroughly, and they cleared him. I know there are a lot of good medical professionals around. So don't worry so much.
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Agreed, it was just on the field medical staff, I'd be in the same boat....but he went to the Hospital and they cleared him.
 
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