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We have heard for two years now that Schonhoft is pushing these guys
MililaniBuckeye said:Even "cardinal sins" have levels of infraction. Is taking $100 on the sly the same as, say, taking $1,000 in a more brazen manner? I don't think so. How many have seen Troy Smith "walking around with envelopes full of cash"? I haven't heard of any, have you? Also, the minute that the head coach of a football team loses emotional attachment to his players, he's done. I think Jim Tressel has proved himself as a head coach over 18 seasons, and Geiger proved himself as AD at two major institutions over 15 years, so if they feel reinstatement is warranted, I'll defer to their judgment, thank you very much.
Steve19 said:Am I right in assuming that AKAK, FKA and Saw could agree with raising the penalties at OSU for any future infractions? Would you suggest that OSU institute a policy that if a player takes more than some amount of money in prohibited benefits, say $100 or $250, that player will suffer a 10 game suspension in the first instance and will be expelled from the University for a second offense?
No scapegoating in that. No unfair treatment. No ability to cry foul. Just a statement that the bar is higher on this stuff at OSU.
Probably would not be wise to announce this now, so that the media suggests that OSU is laying down the law because things are so out of hand. But the policy could be quietly with the players of all athletics teams immediately and then perhaps announced at some future date publicly when all of this has died down?
Would something like that work for you guys?
FKAGobucks877 said:And that is not to say that Smith shouldn't still be punished further by the coach...
Besides telling the athletes many, many times that accepting money is against NCAA rules, and the penalty is suspension from the team, maybe the athletes need to be also reminded of the mindset of some of these snake-in-the-grass boosters. I don't know about you folks, but when I read that this booster said "Now I own him", it hit a nerve with me.Baker called Dutton and asked whether Smith had received the money with assurances that there were no strings attached, the incident report says. Baker responded, "Now I own him," the report says.
You aren't kidding, man. It scared me. To think that Smith may intentionally shave points for gambling purposes and whatnot. This is some serious shit and I will always stick to my guns in saying that TS should be gone. I think its very commendable that people want to help this kid, but I have no heart for a guy that does something that is so wrong and hurts his teammates and his school that badly. Im more worried about having a clean program than winning because we have the coaching to win, but if you cheat to do it then whats the point.buckiprof said:Besides telling the athletes many, many times that accepting money is against NCAA rules, and the penalty is suspension from the team, maybe the athletes need to be also reminded of the mindset of some of these snake-in-the-grass boosters. I don't know about you folks, but when I read that this booster said "Now I own him", it hit a nerve with me.
Our thinking about Smith shaving points is a hell of a lot different from his actually doing so. Just like this Baker jocksniffer saying "I own him" is a hell of a lot different from his actually owning Smith.To think that Smith may intentionally shave points for gambling purposes and whatnot. This is some serious shit and I will always stick to my guns in saying that TS should be gone.