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Great article telling the truth
osu needs boosters like all big schools do but, how do they protect or teach the players to just say no when some of these kids come from the middle or lower class of living in our society.
Thats why espn hasn't made a big deal out it. They know the truth
Great article telling the truth
osu needs boosters like all big schools do but, how do they protect or teach the players to just say no when some of these kids come from the middle or lower class of living in our society.
Thats why espn hasn't made a big deal out it. They know the truth
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This makes me sick.
What exactly is to deter boosters from getting close to athletes again? They can't buy tickets from the University anymore and they won't receive the Alumni magazine! Let's be real about this, it's not exactly difficult to come across tickets outside of the University - so the penalty to boosters corrupting and taking advantage of our athletes is essentially no longer receiving the Alumni Magazine? OMFG NOOOOoooooo!
Geiger going out of his way to protect the identity of slimeballs is the absolute WRONG thing to do. There is no accountability for boosters trying to get too close to players and the program. He should just throw the assholes under the bus and publically humiliate them by fully disclosing who they are and the nature of what they did. Only then will you be able to scare most of these fuckwits off.
What exactly is to deter boosters from getting close to athletes again? They can't buy tickets from the University anymore and they won't receive the Alumni magazine! Let's be real about this, it's not exactly difficult to come across tickets outside of the University - so the penalty to boosters corrupting and taking advantage of our athletes is essentially no longer receiving the Alumni Magazine? OMFG NOOOOoooooo!
Geiger going out of his way to protect the identity of slimeballs is the absolute WRONG thing to do. There is no accountability for boosters trying to get too close to players and the program. He should just throw the assholes under the bus and publically humiliate them by fully disclosing who they are and the nature of what they did. Only then will you be able to scare most of these fuckwits off.
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UpNorthBuckeye
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OSU-sCUM replay 12-26
C-bus local channel 6 is planning to show the OSU-Mich game replay the day after Christmas at 2pm.
Has anyone heard if they have changed plans with Smith's suspension?? He was, after all, the main star of the game. Yes the defense and TG were great but it was a Smith show.
Just wondering. I will be in Columbus this weekend and was planning on watching it again. I know someof you have it taped but I didn't, and I am hoping Channel 6 comes through.
You know, everyone was saying that the re-surfacing of the Clarett BS would be a distraction to the team before the sCUM game, and then they kicked ass. So I won't be surprised when this crap with Smith focuses the team for the Alamo Bowl, and they play their best game of the year.
Go Bucks and Merry Christmas!
C-bus local channel 6 is planning to show the OSU-Mich game replay the day after Christmas at 2pm.
Has anyone heard if they have changed plans with Smith's suspension?? He was, after all, the main star of the game. Yes the defense and TG were great but it was a Smith show.
Just wondering. I will be in Columbus this weekend and was planning on watching it again. I know someof you have it taped but I didn't, and I am hoping Channel 6 comes through.
You know, everyone was saying that the re-surfacing of the Clarett BS would be a distraction to the team before the sCUM game, and then they kicked ass. So I won't be surprised when this crap with Smith focuses the team for the Alamo Bowl, and they play their best game of the year.
Go Bucks and Merry Christmas!
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taude
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I don't know about this.DA-Bucks said:
I'm not clear what exactly the benefits are, but I doubt you can buy the same kinds of tickets outside the stadium that the boosters can get. ala club seats. It's a lot harder to impress your bigwig friends when you're scalping for B-deck than if you've already got exclusive club seats.
Secondly, since this guy didn't break any law, revealing his name in public would likely result in harassment by certain elements of our fandom. It could also be construed as slander. All-in-all, a recipe for a lawsuit as Gieger says.
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Yup AG should just go ahead and give out his name, phone #, address, and the social security numbers of all immediate family...I'm sure there isn't anyone fanatical enough in Cbus to harrass the guy or anything with anything being that unimaginable act that could have been prevented.strohs said:
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GoofyBuckeye
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Here is the article provided by lighteningbuck that explains what happened, in some detail. It was a booster after all, stow. Feel better? I certainly don't. Trust me, I don't like it when I hear things that like this that turn out to be true and I'm not proud of it, just so you know.
A booster by any other name is .... a booster.
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Booster, quarterback to pay for blunder
But OSU protecting contributor’s identity
Thursday, December 23, 2004
Jill Riepenhoff
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
As Troy Smith watches the Alamo Bowl on television, the booster who improperly gave the Buckeye quarterback something of value last spring awaits his or her punishment from Ohio State.
A source yesterday confirmed that Smith accepted an undisclosed "extra benefit" from an officially sanctioned booster, a violation of NCAA Bylaw 16.12.2.1.
Though Smith’s reputation has been tainted by the incident, the name of the booster who tripped the rising star likely will remain secret.
"It’s not something we disclose," Athletics Director Andy Geiger said yesterday. "We live in a litigious age and we handle it privately."
NCAA rules require Ohio State to blackball a booster who gives athletes something of value.
If Ohio State determines that the booster acted improperly, he or she forever will lose the right to buy tickets to OSU athletic events and will be dropped from the mailing list, Geiger said.
But, he said, the university also will follow its longtime practice of protecting the booster’s identity.
The allegation against Smith surfaced last Thursday through a signed letter sent to the athletic department’s compliance office. Geiger said the violation occurred in March or April.
On Monday, Ohio State announced that it had suspended Smith, 20, a third-year sophomore, for the Alamo Bowl. The suspension could stretch to the first game next fall if the NCAA determines that OSU’s punishment was too lenient.
At Smith’s request, Geiger and Tressel promised not to reveal details of the infraction, Geiger said.
Smith returned Tuesday to his home in Cleveland. His teammates left yesterday for San Antonio, site of the game.
"We’ve been very upfront and very open, but we’re going to protect our kids," Geiger said. "People don’t always have to know everything there is to know."
The OSU Board of Trustees also remains silent on the latest Buckeye black eye. Telephone messages left for seven of 11 board members were not returned.
Sports ethicist and Ohio State professor Bill Morgan said Smith’s troubles point to one of the troublesome necessities of big-time college sports — boosters.
Former Buckeye Maurice Clarett said that boosters gave him cash, cars and cushy jobs — allegations university officials say they haven’t been able to corroborate. And former basketball player Sloboban "Boban" Savovic had a questionable relationship with a booster.
Athletic departments need booster money to stay competitive in the multibillion-dollar industry, said Morgan, a former member of the Drake Group, a national organization of university officials lobbying to de-emphasize collegiate sports.
"There’s no way you can live without these folks, but there’s no way you can live with them," he said. "These are systemic problems."
Boosters, Morgan said, generally are not alumni. They are a group of folks who donate money to athletic departments for special perks and privileges.
At Ohio State, boosters include members of the Buckeye Club, Buckeye Boosters, Varsity O and other organizations. They also include people who have employed athletes or have received season football tickets.
The Buckeye Club is the athletic department’s most profitable fund-raising arm. During the fiscal year that ended June 30, members kicked $7.5 million to the athletic department, representing nearly 10 percent of the department’s $76 million in revenue. Money generated from all other booster organizations amounted to $792,000.
Boosters generally are given the opportunity to buy season football tickets in prime Ohio Stadium locations.
The most generous boosters travel on airplanes with the team to away games. Some get access to football practices, which are closed to many individuals.
"It’s just not a morally healthy environment," Morgan said. "Anything you can do to insulate boosters from the team is a step in the right direction."
Dispatch reporter Kathy Lynn Gray contributed to this story.
[email protected] </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
A booster by any other name is .... a booster.
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Booster, quarterback to pay for blunder
But OSU protecting contributor’s identity
Thursday, December 23, 2004
Jill Riepenhoff
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
As Troy Smith watches the Alamo Bowl on television, the booster who improperly gave the Buckeye quarterback something of value last spring awaits his or her punishment from Ohio State.
A source yesterday confirmed that Smith accepted an undisclosed "extra benefit" from an officially sanctioned booster, a violation of NCAA Bylaw 16.12.2.1.
Though Smith’s reputation has been tainted by the incident, the name of the booster who tripped the rising star likely will remain secret.
"It’s not something we disclose," Athletics Director Andy Geiger said yesterday. "We live in a litigious age and we handle it privately."
NCAA rules require Ohio State to blackball a booster who gives athletes something of value.
If Ohio State determines that the booster acted improperly, he or she forever will lose the right to buy tickets to OSU athletic events and will be dropped from the mailing list, Geiger said.
But, he said, the university also will follow its longtime practice of protecting the booster’s identity.
The allegation against Smith surfaced last Thursday through a signed letter sent to the athletic department’s compliance office. Geiger said the violation occurred in March or April.
On Monday, Ohio State announced that it had suspended Smith, 20, a third-year sophomore, for the Alamo Bowl. The suspension could stretch to the first game next fall if the NCAA determines that OSU’s punishment was too lenient.
At Smith’s request, Geiger and Tressel promised not to reveal details of the infraction, Geiger said.
Smith returned Tuesday to his home in Cleveland. His teammates left yesterday for San Antonio, site of the game.
"We’ve been very upfront and very open, but we’re going to protect our kids," Geiger said. "People don’t always have to know everything there is to know."
The OSU Board of Trustees also remains silent on the latest Buckeye black eye. Telephone messages left for seven of 11 board members were not returned.
Sports ethicist and Ohio State professor Bill Morgan said Smith’s troubles point to one of the troublesome necessities of big-time college sports — boosters.
Former Buckeye Maurice Clarett said that boosters gave him cash, cars and cushy jobs — allegations university officials say they haven’t been able to corroborate. And former basketball player Sloboban "Boban" Savovic had a questionable relationship with a booster.
Athletic departments need booster money to stay competitive in the multibillion-dollar industry, said Morgan, a former member of the Drake Group, a national organization of university officials lobbying to de-emphasize collegiate sports.
"There’s no way you can live without these folks, but there’s no way you can live with them," he said. "These are systemic problems."
Boosters, Morgan said, generally are not alumni. They are a group of folks who donate money to athletic departments for special perks and privileges.
At Ohio State, boosters include members of the Buckeye Club, Buckeye Boosters, Varsity O and other organizations. They also include people who have employed athletes or have received season football tickets.
The Buckeye Club is the athletic department’s most profitable fund-raising arm. During the fiscal year that ended June 30, members kicked $7.5 million to the athletic department, representing nearly 10 percent of the department’s $76 million in revenue. Money generated from all other booster organizations amounted to $792,000.
Boosters generally are given the opportunity to buy season football tickets in prime Ohio Stadium locations.
The most generous boosters travel on airplanes with the team to away games. Some get access to football practices, which are closed to many individuals.
"It’s just not a morally healthy environment," Morgan said. "Anything you can do to insulate boosters from the team is a step in the right direction."
Dispatch reporter Kathy Lynn Gray contributed to this story.
[email protected] </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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taude...
scalping b-deck? These boosters aren't exactly your poor 25 year old who will take any ticket the scalper is willing to dump off. they have money and you can find about any seat you'd like from a scalper...
Additonally, a booster already has numerous connections through alumni friends, etc. They are already connected. And yes, you can find club seats easily enough through scalping/networking. It's not that hard to do, hell many club seaters don't go to most games.
scalping b-deck? These boosters aren't exactly your poor 25 year old who will take any ticket the scalper is willing to dump off. they have money and you can find about any seat you'd like from a scalper...
Additonally, a booster already has numerous connections through alumni friends, etc. They are already connected. And yes, you can find club seats easily enough through scalping/networking. It's not that hard to do, hell many club seaters don't go to most games.
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BuckBackHome
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"The most generous boosters travel on airplanes with the team to away games. Some get access to football practices, which are closed to many individuals."
This needs to be shut down immediately. How does the school think they are going to limit boosters from giving illegal gifts if they let them get this close to the team? Visiting a practice once a year before the season begins and a meet and greet with the team after an early game is fine, but this is just too close for comfort. I'm starting to think it is not just the kid responsible in this situation and the administration has some blame.
This needs to be shut down immediately. How does the school think they are going to limit boosters from giving illegal gifts if they let them get this close to the team? Visiting a practice once a year before the season begins and a meet and greet with the team after an early game is fine, but this is just too close for comfort. I'm starting to think it is not just the kid responsible in this situation and the administration has some blame.
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strohs
Go Bucks!
Yup, you hit the nail on the head, albeit in your sarcastic way.osugrad21 said:Yup AG should just go ahead and give out his name, phone #, address, and the social security numbers of all immediate family...I'm sure there isn't anyone fanatical enough in Cbus to harrass the guy or anything with anything being that unimaginable act that could have been prevented.
They should be harassed, its called a deterrent.
If you give benefits, and get caught, you will be hung out to dry.
This must be done to stop this crap.
If you dont want some fanatic coming after you, DONT GIVE OUT ILLEGAL BENEFITS.
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UpNorthBuckeye said:
Sure, just like I quit watching my DVDs of The Game once he was suspended.
I doubt they'll change their plans to show The Game again.
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GoofyBuckeye
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I've got a feeling that the booster's identity will get revealed soon enough, from someone outside the department. Let's hope so.
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