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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

jimotis4heisman said:
actually the players were later cleared of any wrongdoing by the ncaa it is not illegal as long as they did not receive more than the deemed fair market value.
I looked this up earlier today and initially thought the same thing. The players were cleared, but the NCAA set a precedent there and stated that selling championship rings was strictly prohibited and was an NCAA infraction.

From an article I found earlier today:

On May 8, the NCAA membership services staff interpreted the selling of the rings as a violation, making the players ineligible. The university appealed to the subcommittee because the rules were interpreted differently throughout the country.

The subcommittee agreed with the membership services staff that from now on selling such rings will be a violation with NCAA penalties.
AP NEWS
The Associated Press News Service"

Not that it matters, since this is probably not the scenario...
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
goofy how sure are you of all that is exactly what happened?

The Dellimuti matter has been beaten to death by the NCAA.

Ohio businessman denies Clarett wrongdoing
By Jack Carey, USA TODAY
A businessman in Warren, Ohio, linked to suspended Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett, says he believes he has done nothing wrong and is surprised he has been part of an NCAA and school investigation that led to the sidelining of Clarett for the season.

Bobby Dellimuti, who owns a restaurant/catering business in the same town Clarett went to high school, told the Warren Tribune Chronicle for Tuesday's edition that he has no connection to Ohio State and has been a longtime supporter of Warren G. Harding High and its football program. "(Clarett's) like a son to me," he said.

Clarett was suspended for the season last week for receiving impermissible benefits and providing false information to investigators. NCAA rules bar athletes from receiving assistance from anyone other than parents or legal guardians unless the relationship was established before they became college prospects.

Dellimuti, who did not return a call Tuesday, told the Tribune Chronicle he gave Clarett a cell phone but would not comment on details about financial assistance.

Ohio State athletics director Andy Geiger has said the NCAA's interpretation of benefits Clarett received "made it clear" there was a problem with Clarett's eligibility. Geiger did not return a call Tuesday.

The investigation "is making me paranoid about everything. They're trying to make me a scapegoat. I'm a Warren guy, and I try to be supportive," said Dellimuti, who says Clarett is like a son.

Dellimuti, 38, declined to give details about the type of assistance he gave Clarett.

NCAA rules prohibit athletes from receiving assistance from anyone other than parents or legal guardians unless the relationship was established before they became college prospects.

Dellimuti, 38, would not discuss whether he continued providing financial support to Clarett after he signed to play at Ohio State during his senior year at Warren Harding High School, about 60 miles southeast of Cleveland. Dellimuti said he began a relationship with Clarett when he transferred from Austintown Fitch High School to Warren Harding after his ninth-grade season.

On Saturday, Geiger did not mention Dellimuti by name when answering questions from a reporter about Clarett's situation. Geiger referred to a surrogate father figure.

Geiger said determining if the relationship began before Clarett was considered a college prospect is a fine line.

"Exactly when that relationship started, all of those kinds of things, all of that can be part of mitigation as we go forward. What did he know, what should he have known, how clear is that interpretation, how clear is the rule?" Geiger said.

The NCAA shared its interpretation of the assistance rules with OSU in August, Geiger said, "and that interpretation made it clear that we had the problem that we're in."

Meanwhile, Warren Harding high school football coach Thom McDaniels said he fears the situation will scare off others trying to help teams and players.

"I've coached in Orrville, Mansfield and Canton, and there were people like Bobby in every one of those communities. They're just good people who want to help the kids. I guess it's no wonder there is a shortage of good Samaritans in the world today," McDaniels said.

Contributing: The Associated Press

Dellimuti and Clarett

Clarett linked to more trouble
Running back's relationship with gambler under heavy NCAA scrutiny
By Matt Duval
Published: Thursday, February 5, 2004
Article Tools: Page 1 of 2

When Maurice Clarett pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of failure to aid law enforcement Jan. 14, everything seemed set for the suspended tailback to focus all his attention on a possible comeback with the Ohio State football team.

But just a couple weeks after his plea, Clarett is back under the NCAA microscope. This time, however, Clarett is not the one directly being scrutinized.

According to an ESPN.com article posted yesterday, officials are looking at Warren-area caterer Robert Dellimuti, a benefactor of Clarett's and known gambler. From cell phone records obtained by the Web site, Dellimuti is shown to have made 27 calls to SBGGlobal in Costa Rica during OSU's national title season in 2002. Ten of the calls to the sportsbook were made in the three weeks leading up to the Fiesta Bowl. The phone records, however, do not show what type of gambling activity took place or whether Dellimuti was betting on Buckeye games.

Dellimuti's relationship with Clarett is nothing new to both OSU and the NCAA. According to the article, Dellimuti, 38, supplied his phone records to the university last summer when investigators looked into the gifts he gave Clarett. Dellimuti believed the money and cell phone given to Clarett were proper since he had known the star athlete since Clarett was in the ninth grade. The NCAA, however, determined the caterer had met Clarett after he became a sought-after college athlete.

Investigators found Dellimuti had supplied Clarett with $3,800 in benefits, including $500 cash and payment of his cell phone bill. As a result, OSU suspended the 2002 Big Ten Freshman of the Year indefinitely.

While the NCAA won't comment on an on-going case, OSU Director of Athletics Andy Geiger issued a statement after yesterday's national letter-of-intent signing day.

"We have read ESPN.com's story and are obviously concerned with the issues it raises," Geiger said. "We cannot emphasize strongly enough our belief that gambling on intercollegiate athletics is a very serious issue. Rest assured, we will look into this matter and will support and cooperate with any and all investigations on this subject."

According to the article, an ESPN.com investigation did not find any evidence that Clarett gambled, shaved points or tried to influence the result of OSU games for gambling purposes. Clarett declined to be interviewed for the story directly, but his attorney, Alan C. Milstein issued a statement.

"Maurice certainty did not know of any gambling activity by anyone, including Mr. Dellimuti, that he was in contact with," he said. "In addition, Maurice had no reason to believe that any statements that he was giving to anyone were used one way or another for gambling purposes."

According to the article, Clarett will probably be asked to dissociate himself from Dellimuti. William Saum, the NCAA director of Agent, Gambling and Amateurism Activities told ESPN.com the consequences for Clarett could grow in seriousness if Dellimuti is found to have used his relationship with Clarett for personal gain. An NCAA bylaw prohibits athletes from providing inside information to gamblers, who can use it to make smarter bets.

Clarett's future could be influenced even more in the coming weeks when a decision on his lawsuit against the National Football League is expected to be rendered. Clarett is suing the NFL over the early-entry rules it has for its rookie draft. Under the system in place, athletes cannot enter the draft until three years after their graduation from high school. Clarett is suing to abolish that guideline.

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I found this article on the OZone. Kudos to the OZone poster known as treebuck.

Smith violation took place during spring
OSU denies QB sold national-title ring

Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Kathy Lynn Gray and Ken Gordon

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

The NCAA violation that will keep Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith out of the Alamo Bowl happened in March or April, athletics director Andy Geiger said yesterday.

Geiger said the infraction involves only one incident, and he confirmed it was not an academic issue. On Monday, Geiger said it was not a legal issue.

"Troy Smith did not do a terrible thing, but he broke the rules," Geiger said. "It was not a good thing, but it’s not something that will cost the rest of his career."

Smith, a third-year sophomore, was suspended Monday for the Dec. 29 game in San Antonio. The school has applied for Smith to be reinstated to the team starting with winter workouts after the bowl, although there is a possibility the suspension could stretch to the first game of the 2005 season.

Kent Barrett, an NCAA assistant director of public relations, did not give a timetable for when the NCAA would respond to OSU’s reinstatement request.

OSU officials denied a rumor that Smith sold his 2002 nationalchampionship ring on eBay. That rumor gained legs ‘‘Troy Smith did not do a terrible thing, but he broke the rules. It was not a good thing, but it’s not something that will cost the rest of his career." ANDY GEIGER OSU athletics director because a ring was sold Thursday — the day Geiger said Ohio State learned of Smith’s violation.

Despite a slew of other rumors still circulating, Geiger said he cannot provide more details about Smith’s infraction until OSU finishes its investigation.

"I fully expected there would be this kind of speculation because it’s the nature of our community," he said.

Geiger said Smith has been advised not to talk publicly about the incident, and called the way OSU is handling the situation "strictly textbook."

Apparently, Smith is heeding that advice. His football coach at Cleveland Glenville, Ted Ginn Sr., yesterday said Smith hasn’t told him the nature of the violation.

"He didn’t let me know, and I really don’t need to know," said Ginn Sr., a close confidant of Smith and the father of OSU player Ted Ginn Jr. "My thing is keeping him calm, and he’s cool."

Ginn Sr. said Smith was in Cleveland. Repeated attempts to reach Smith have been unsuccessful.

At Smith’s home in East Cleveland yesterday, Smith’s cousin, Tedisha Brown, said Smith was not home. She had no further comment.

No one answered the door at Smith’s last known Columbus address.

Asked if he was surprised that Smith hadn’t told him what he did wrong, Ginn Sr. said, "Yes and no. . . . I think he’s been directed on what to say. (OSU officials) have got all the answers."

Ginn Sr. also said Smith did not believe the incident would affect his starting status once he is reinstated. Smith went 4-1 after taking over for Justin Zwick, who will start the bowl game.

"He thinks he’s done enough" to keep his starting job, Ginn Sr. said.

OSU President Karen A. Holbrook called Smith’s suspension "appropriate and necessary" and said OSU officials acted quickly after learning of the NCAA violation.

She also defended Ohio State’s reputation, despite a series of incidents that have drawn negative publicity this year.

"I take issue with the characterization of our athletics program as unstable," Holbrook said in a statement. "The sanctions we placed on our basketball program resulted from violations that took place nearly six years ago, and we acted decisively and appropriately, including firing the coach, when those violations first came to light. Recent headlines dealing with the football program covered issues that had been fully investigated a yearand-a-half ago, and we found no breaches of institutional academic integrity."
 
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:huh:

well im glad its nothing serious......just bad timing. notice the image at the side of the xtrasandos.com link

Smith violation took place during spring
OSU denies QB sold national-title ring
Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Kathy Lynn Gray and Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH




The NCAA violation that will keep Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith out of the Alamo Bowl happened in March or April, athletics director Andy Geiger said yesterday.

Geiger said the infraction involves only one incident, and he confirmed it was not an academic issue. On Monday, Geiger said it was not a legal issue.

"Troy Smith did not do a terrible thing, but he broke the rules," Geiger said. "It was not a good thing, but it’s not something that will cost the rest of his career."

Smith, a third-year sophomore, was suspended Monday for the Dec. 29 game in San Antonio. The school has applied for Smith to be reinstated to the team starting with winter workouts after the bowl, although there is a possibility the suspension could stretch to the first game of the 2005 season.

Kent Barrett, an NCAA assistant director of public relations, did not give a timetable for when the NCAA would respond to OSU’s reinstatement request.

OSU officials denied a rumor that Smith sold his 2002 nationalchampionship ring on eBay. That rumor gained legs ‘‘Troy Smith did not do a terrible thing, but he broke the rules. It was not a good thing, but it’s not something that will cost the rest of his career." ANDY GEIGER OSU athletics director because a ring was sold Thursday — the day Geiger said Ohio State learned of Smith’s violation.

Despite a slew of other rumors still circulating, Geiger said he cannot provide more details about Smith’s infraction until OSU finishes its investigation.

"I fully expected there would be this kind of speculation because it’s the nature of our community," he said.

Geiger said Smith has been advised not to talk publicly about the incident, and called the way OSU is handling the situation "strictly textbook."

Apparently, Smith is heeding that advice. His football coach at Cleveland Glenville, Ted Ginn Sr., yesterday said Smith hasn’t told him the nature of the violation.

"He didn’t let me know, and I really don’t need to know," said Ginn Sr., a close confidant of Smith and the father of OSU player Ted Ginn Jr. "My thing is keeping him calm, and he’s cool."

Ginn Sr. said Smith was in Cleveland. Repeated attempts to reach Smith have been unsuccessful.

At Smith’s home in East Cleveland yesterday, Smith’s cousin, Tedisha Brown, said Smith was not home. She had no further comment.

No one answered the door at Smith’s last known Columbus address.

Asked if he was surprised that Smith hadn’t told him what he did wrong, Ginn Sr. said, "Yes and no. . . . I think he’s been directed on what to say. (OSU officials) have got all the answers."

Ginn Sr. also said Smith did not believe the incident would affect his starting status once he is reinstated. Smith went 4-1 after taking over for Justin Zwick, who will start the bowl game.

"He thinks he’s done enough" to keep his starting job, Ginn Sr. said.

OSU President Karen A. Holbrook called Smith’s suspension "appropriate and necessary" and said OSU officials acted quickly after learning of the NCAA violation.

She also defended Ohio State’s reputation, despite a series of incidents that have drawn negative publicity this year.

"I take issue with the characterization of our athletics program as unstable," Holbrook said in a statement. "The sanctions we placed on our basketball program resulted from violations that took place nearly six years ago, and we acted decisively and appropriately, including firing the coach, when those violations first came to light. Recent headlines dealing with the football program covered issues that had been fully investigated a yearand-a-half ago, and we found no breaches of institutional academic integrity."

Dispatch reporter Bill Pfeiffer contributed to this report.

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Bad timing...couldn't have come at a worse time than this.

Sure it could have... The week before Iowa... the week before Michigan. (Which while losing this game would be bad...its always worse to lose to Michigan... within a given season)
 
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Ginn Sr. also said Smith did not believe the incident would affect his starting status once he is reinstated. Smith went 4-1 after taking over for Justin Zwick, who will start the bowl game.

"He thinks he’s done enough" to keep his starting job, Ginn Sr. said.

Compare Ginn Sr's comments with Troy Smith's comments:

“In fact, the statement he said to me was, `I understand I’ll start at the bottom of the totem pole when I get back. I understand that’s what I should do.’ ”

So much for the contrition.
 
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dont we get to know what it was before we move on?
That would be nice and I agree but OSU moves slow on these things and Geiger said when they finish their investigation, the public will know....I might be reading between the lines on this.

The point I was trying to make was that regardless of what the details are, lets move on and accept the fact that in OSU's eyes this is isolated and being dealt with.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
dont we get to know what it was before we move on?
no. as much as id like to know, its not my buisness.

oh and don't be shocked if smith never sees the starting qb spot again. if zwick plays even a half decent game, or if boekman is half of what people claim him to be. smith is done.

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smith clawed his way from the depths of nonexistance once. it will take increadible incompetance from others for him to get a second attempt at such a feet. he had a once in a lifetime opportunity. he let it slip away. i really do feel bad for the guy.
 
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Also keep in mind that we will not necessarily need a mobile QB next year. At WR, Holmes is already a stud, but Ginn, Gonzo, Hall and Dukes will have another year under their belt. At RB, Pittman will be the guy with strong competition from Haw and Wells. And our OL has been improving later this season, and obviously our new guys will only strengthen the roster (Boone could see playing time very early next year).

So while I wish Smith were still at QB next year, if Zwick or Boeckman can throw lasers without having Smith's mobility, I think we'll be sitting pretty for a big10 championship and maybe more.
 
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martinss01 said:
no. as much as id like to know, its not my buisness.

oh and don't be shocked if smith never sees the starting qb spot again. if zwick plays even a half decent game, or if boekman is half of what people claim him to be. smith is done.


smith clawed his way from the depths of nonexistance once. it will take increadible incompetance from others for him to get a second attempt at such a feet. he had a once in a lifetime opportunity. he let it slip away. i really do feel bad for the guy.
did you read the article that said it was a minor incident where he broke a rule and had to be punished....but he more than likely will be with the team next year? then did you actually see his performance against michigan?

why are you so down on his chances of playing again?
 
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