QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

[southcampus]

It's easier to say Troy is getting screwed than to come to grips with reality. So fuck all of you standing up for the Ravens....and the rest of the NFL for that matter.

 

[matcar]

I laugh at the notion of judging the potential of a player based on which teams were silly enough to pass on him.

No one wants to go through the lists and lists of second day draft picks who've made it big in the NFL.

Likewise people laugh at the notion that a fan of college team "A" thinks his QB is better than all the experts think. I like Troy as much as everyone else and I really hope he sticks in the league for a long time, but I understand his situation and don't expect him to start anywhere.

 

[3074326]

I laugh at the notion of judging the potential of a player based on which teams were silly enough to pass on him.

No one wants to go through the lists and lists of second day draft picks who've made it big in the NFL.

And I laugh at the notion of people on an internet forum thinking they know more about Troy Smith than his own coaches and teams around the league.

 

[NFBuck]

I laugh at the notion of judging the potential of a player based on which teams were silly enough to pass on him.

No one wants to go through the lists and lists of second day draft picks who've made it big in the NFL.

Any team in the league could have had him for a pittance, every single one of them passed. It's not "some" teams, every team passed on him. He's obviously lacking something that internet message board posters don't or refuse to see. He is what he is, a very good to borderline great college QB who is a career NFL backup.

He doesn't have a rocket arm in the NFL. He has an average one. If the third one is a big asset, go get Quinn back!

I wish he had more of a shot, but he is more of a good backup than a painfully overlooked QB.

Exactly.

 

[JBaney45]

And I laugh at the notion of people on an internet forum thinking they know more about Troy Smith than his own coaches and teams around the league.

What do other teams around the league know about him? The NFL is notoriously bad at evaluating talent at the quarterback position and other then at the combine when would other teams besides the Ravens have really gotten a look at Troy that the average person hasn't? It's not like the Ravens invite other teams to their practices to look at their players. Troy hasn't had many reps on the field so other teams really didn't have a lot to look at when it comes to whether or not they want to bring him in. I mean take a look at Matt Cassell, no one was going after him until he got his chance to shine when Brady went down. Hell Brady himself was taken in the 6th round and wasn't given a shot to start until Drew fucking Bledsoe was injured. Smith hasn't had the chance to show his talent.

He doesn't have a rocket arm in the NFL. He has an average one. If the third one is a big asset, go get Quinn back!

I wish he had more of a shot, but he is more of a good backup than a painfully overlooked QB.

Accuracy****>Rocket Arm and Troy seems to be a pretty accurate passer. You aren't going to convince me that Smith wouldn't have been an improvement over the 2 Clowns we've had playing in Cleveland the past 2 seasons. When you see Derek Anderson throw balls 15 yards behind receivers. I'm not saying Smith is Drew Brees ready to be uncovered but I think he's a serviceable quarterback that could certainly play for a decent number of football teams.

 

[3074326]

What do other teams around the league know about him? The NFL is notoriously bad at evaluating talent at the quarterback position and other then at the combine when would other teams besides the Ravens have really gotten a look at Troy that the average person hasn't? It's not like the Ravens invite other teams to their practices to look at their players. Troy hasn't had many reps on the field so other teams really didn't have a lot to look at when it comes to whether or not they want to bring him in. I mean take a look at Matt Cassell, no one was going after him until he got his chance to shine when Brady went down. Hell Brady himself was taken in the 6th round and wasn't given a shot to start until Drew fucking Bledsoe was injured. Smith hasn't had the chance to show his talent.

You just told me the NFL is notoriously bad at evaluating QBs.

Who is better?

Other NFL teams apparently knew enough about Troy to not want to give anything up for him. I thought he was worth something in a trade. But he wasn't, apparently.

 

[JBaney45]

You just told me the NFL is notoriously bad at evaluating QBs.

Who is better?

Other NFL teams apparently knew enough about Troy to not want to give anything up for him. I thought he was worth something in a trade. But he wasn't, apparently.

Or they didn't know enough about Troy so they didn't know whether he was worth giving up something for?

My point is the NFL just isn't great at it. How many busts have we seen drafted in the early rounds then you go look at the Tom Brady's of the world that were taken way later then they should have been. Yeah when they get on the field and play lights out it's easy for anyone to tell that they are great players. That's hardly evaluating talent though.

 

[DontHateOState]

I laugh at the notion of judging the potential of a player based on which teams were silly enough to pass on him.

No one wants to go through the lists and lists of second day draft picks who've made it big in the NFL.

And then compare it to the list of the ones who haven't.

Hint: One is much, much bigger than the other. And it's not the one you want it to be.

 

[Jake]

Was it his rocket arm, escapability, ability to checkdown, or his creativity that is going to hold him back in the NFL?

Amazingly, despite being all that, he was drafted in the 5th round. Apparently, I'm not the only one who didn't see him as a can't miss prospect.

I'm not going to argue with blind homerism. Again, I love Troy the Buckeye, but I thought it would be an uphill battle for him to be a star in the NFL. Sue me.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

I'm confused. I'm caught somewhere in between Troy Smith is a cant miss prospect and a bench warmer.

To the 'omg he was good at OSU': sure he was, but his limited time has proven he's got a lot of growing to do to be a game manager in the NFL.

To the 'omg just cause he was good at OSU': he's better than half of the backups and better than at least 2 or 5 starters in the league. He'll have to wait his turn, but a Buffalo or Oakland or Denver should jump at the chances. He's no less a project than the other QBs on the roster.

In closing, TS is better tan YOU think and Worse than YOU think...So he should at least have an opportunity to prove himself.

 

[matcar]

I'm confused. I'm caught somewhere in between Troy Smith is a cant miss prospect and a bench warmer.

To the 'omg he was good at OSU': sure he was, but his limited time has proven he's got a lot of growing to do to be a game manager in the NFL.

To the 'omg just cause he was good at OSU': he's better than half of the backups and better than at least 2 or 5 starters in the league. He'll have to wait his turn, but a Buffalo or Oakland or Denver should jump at the chances. He's no less a project than the other QBs on the roster.

In closing, TS is better tan YOU think and Worse than YOU think...So he should at least have an opportunity to prove himself.

He's been in the league for a few years now. Believe it or not, that IS an opportunity.

 

[osucollegebuck]

He's the next doug flutie...I think he'll bounce around a lot but never really given a fair chance at being the guy.

 

[NFBuck]

He's been in the league for a few years now. Believe it or not, that IS an opportunity.

[sarcasm]Joe Flacco's a bum!!![/sarcasm]

 

[Diego-Bucks]

You just told me the NFL is notoriously bad at evaluating QBs.

Who is better?

Other NFL teams apparently knew enough about Troy to not want to give anything up for him. I thought he was worth something in a trade. But he wasn't, apparently.

Big difference: he may not have been worth trading for if the teams that wanted him would assume he'd be available on free agency soon enough. He is a player that is a fringe starter, he may compete and get an opportunity to start someday soon. Remember, before he went down with an illness in 2008, it was presumed he would probably start the pre-season games for Baltimore, and arguably be there opening day starter. Clearly, the Ravens felt he was worth the look. With that in mind, draft picks are much more valuable today than they ever have been, so a few teams may look at Troy and say, "I'd like him on the team, but Baltimore may have to get rid of him soon enough anyways for the roster space/locker room unity so why trade something away".

 

[jlb1705]

Why would a team want to part with a 5th round pick for Troy Smith when they can use it to pick any one of the future HOF quarterbacks that the league routinely lets fall to that point in the draft?