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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

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You know I never thought of it that way and I see your point now..... It sucks because if we just put up some points it might do wonders for our confidence but if we win I'm happy so I can see what you're saying with Tressel calling it quits in the passing game after we went up 14-0 in the first Quarter. Excellent post.
 
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I think Gary Danielson alluded to something that a deleted post suggested. He spoke of a QB needing to earn the confidence of the coach and then the players. At this point I can't see our team rallying behind Zwick with Troy Smith enthusiastically leading them to victories.
 
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We lose on our defense's performance.... For one it was PENN STATE'S DEFENSE we had to face! which is better than all those teams you just mentioned. Also 59 yards passing on 6-8 in my books is fine if there's no Int's and we're running the ball and winning the game. The thing is we simply didn't need to win the game with a strong offensive out put. Also TROY SMITH DID PLAY LIGHTS OUT TODAY. say what you want but the kid did what they asked of him. When asked to throw it he completed the passes with no Int's. When asked to move the chains he did, and when the running game was called on we did. So the total yardage is not nearly what the game idicates.

Another great point. Right now this offense is playing with energy, and we're playing with just a different tempo. If we were to put Zwick in it'd prolly hurt the teams mind set. You can call our offensive 200 some odd yards horrible but if you go back and watch the film and see we moved the chains and did alot of very good things I think you'll have a different approach. I mean we have some things to work on such as being more dissapliened to go along with working alittle more on running the ball. Another thing I wanna bring up to make a point is that if you go back and look at our first drive we came out with 4 wide outs EVERY play... and after we got the 14-0 lead we didn't see it again until the 4th quarter. You can just tell right there we tightened the game plan after we got ahead like we did.
 
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Very good there Lloyd. I will truly be a smith fan after we face Purdue/Michigan. There's no Doubt if he does well against those two teams that smith should remain at QB. We better see him, because Smith has done nothing but better his situation since becoming Starting QB.
 
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I'm not talking about my observations about Zwick. I'm talking about watching Smith throwing the ball numerous times against a good defense. Unfortunately he didn't do that today, so I'm gonna hold out on my real observations on him till then.
 
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sandgk said:
Rick you beat me to it..


I think it'll be interesting when, and more likely the case that we see Smith go against the spartans.
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The problem with Michigan State is very easy.. it won't be a shooting match between two offenses and defenses. Michigan State may not have Stanton now next week.
 
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Well I agree that Smith needs to see another good defense. This defense today guys was the 2nd best in the big ten! you don't hold the teams like Iowa (33 against us) and Purdue to limited offense. We held our own today thats for sure. Smith wasn't given the opportunity so I hope they do that some other time this year.
 
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First of all, anyone who thought our offense was going to be anything but Jesse Helms conservative, after opening up a 14-0 lead, needs to have their head examined. When we went up , I said to myself, "self, we're going to run the ball 50 times today if our defense holds their offense". Well,we only ran 44 times, but had the 2nd most rush yards against PSU that anyone has had this year . Only Minnesota had more. They indeed have a very good defense so I was more than happy with 144 yards. Who the heck likes to pass only 8 times ? Not I , but unlike some dickweeds at BN, I'll never complain about a win.

My only criticism with Troy is that he should go down earlier on runs. He fights for extra yardage and alot of times that will result in a fumble of an injury. I'd prefer he hit the ground rather than fight for that extra yard or 2, unles it's the first down mark.

I watched the pregame of the OK-OK St. game and they were showing hilight of the leading rushers and EVERY hilight was a run outside the tackles.It just burns my balls when we run EVERY f'n play between the tackles. Please try to incorporate some runs outside the tackles, huh, coach?

The only play you need to see that shows TS is better than JZ is that out pass to Holmes in the 4th. It had zip and was on the button. The ball Ginn dropped was a good (not great) throw that would have made big yards had he caught it. The pass where he was going to run and stopped was impressive as well. You can see the defense plays differerent when TS is behind center. The fumble was his fault because he had plenty of time to get rid of it.

The o-line seemed to ply ok today. The 2 bad plays that stand out were when Datish was too slow picking up the outside rusher, and someone on the right end that missed their man that brought Pittman down for a 3 yard loss. Rehring seems to play with some fire.

Stop the penalties please.

Don't let the punt get by you. That 72 yarder hurt. The one fumble was bogus. I can understand slow whistles, but that was way too slow.
 
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Pittman and Hall are going to have a field day in East Lansing. There's no doubt in my mind that our offense is going to explode. 2 maybe even 3 TD's if we're lucky.
The only question now is how will our defense play against a talented MSU offense. Even without Stanton, they can still put points up on the board.
 
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Brutus1 you have amazing said what I wanted to get to.... You think JUST LIKE ME about today. We faced a tough team and we did very well for all I'm concerned running the ball. Not to mention the Smith/Ginn runs that were called back! that might've put us over 200 yards rushing people. Also when we went up 14-0 I kept saying to myself this defense is putting themselves on the field because honestly our offense didn't really put them in a bad situation if you watch the game from a positive stand point regarding our offense. This defense we faced today was very good and the fact that we could still get 144 yards when they KNEW it was coming was beyond me! Because everyone knew after we were up 14-0 we played not to lose rather than to go for the juggular. Hall/Pittman should fair well the rest the way. Kinda makes me want Llydel to be out for the year with the way these two kids along with Joe/Johnson have been running the ball! Very Very solid outing for how things played out. Great win for us!
 
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