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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

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bucknuts44820 said:
At this point, I am extremely upset at the coaching staff and the athletics department for not having enough intelligence to inform Troy what was within the rules and not within the rules. I doubt Troy had any idea about any possible violation because he missed a class. At this point, I can't bring myself to blame Troy for a minor detail that should have been explained to him by the athletic department and the coaching staff.

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Sorry, but at some point the player has to be responsible for his actions. He knows he's under scrutiny for his previous act. He knows he's on scholarship. He knows he's supposed to attend class. If he's going to deviate from that plan, he needs to have sense enough to ASK HIS COACH about it BEFORE he does it.

Troy has as much responsibilty to know the rules as the coaches have to inform him of them. The evidence shows Troy failed to do his due diligence. All you're doing is assuming the coaches failed as well. No one is more responsible for the decisions we make than ourselves.

ysubuck said:
IF this is true, then it's another example of Troy exhibiting great decision making and leadership skills.

It just seems that the team is not going to be able to count on Troy Smith.
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My sentiments exactly. Being the starting QB is more than just being a fast runner and having a strong arm. It's also about being a team leader, and making smart decisions. Troy needs to step up in both of those areas.
 
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Regardless of the wide variation of opinions here, from what has been reported it seems that Smith did indeed violate one NCAA by-law, and that was failing to get permission to go. We still don't know about his missing class. No matter what we think about the validity of NCAA rules, they are still the rules, whether we like it or not.

That being said, it appears that Smith didn't know he had to tell someone that he was going, and he probably thought that because he wasn't going to miss any classes (and hopefully his not missing any classes proves to be true). If his failing to notify proper officials of his intention to attend is the only violation, I don't see much happening. In fact, as pointed out earlier, had he not taken that booster payment, we may not even be hearing about this. The thing that will cause any penalty at all to be handed out for this is the fact that Smith is already on suspension.

As for us not having a chance against Texas without Smith, whoever thinks that can turn in your BP membership right now. Zwick impressed with his gutty performance in the Alamo Bowl and I can't wait to see what Boeckman has (some were saying he was the best QB in spring practice). We'll be fine with whomever is taking snaps for us on Sep 10th.
 
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I hate the absurdity of these rules, but I agree with Mili, rules are rules. I also agree with Misanthrope, Smith knows he is under the spotlight. In that situation, in a leadership position on a team that is just coming out of one of the largest sports proctology exams ever, you ask before you do anything unusual. If the speculation is right about not asking, then he does bear responsibility.

I do think that we need to give this some room to age a bit. He may or may not have asked the right person, may or may not have asked the wrong person thinking it was the right person, may or may not have missed class, may or may not be penalized...

Either way, as I said earlier, I don't buy the notion that we lose to Texas even though I think he is our best quarterback. Texas is used to a mobile quarterback, Smith is dangerous, but so are our other two quarterbacks.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
As for us not having a chance against Texas without Smith, whoever thinks that can turn in your BP membership right now. Zwick impressed with his gutty performance in the Alamo Bowl and I can't wait to see what Boeckman has (some were saying he was the best QB in spring practice). We'll be fine with whomever is taking snaps for us on Sep 10th.
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I completely agree with this. If your counting on just smith to win that game then your "putting all your eggs in one basket" and forgetting that the Bucks are a team. We've seen plenty of games with players out due to injury or suspension :! and have done just fine.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Regardless of the wide variation of opinions here, from what has been reported it seems that Smith did indeed violate one NCAA by-law, and that was failing to get permission to go.
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I disagree, Mili...I don't know why we know that at all. There is no indication, at least to me, that Troy did NOT ask permission to go. In fact, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have...especially if he wanted to be reimbursed for the travel costs. I think the bigger issue is whether or not he missed a class...and either way, if he asked for (and obtained) approval to go, then he should clearly be held blameless for this whole "issue".


MililaniBuckeye said:
As for us not having a chance against Texas without Smith, whoever thinks that can turn in your BP membership right now. Zwick impressed with his gutty performance in the Alamo Bowl and I can't wait to see what Boeckman has (some were saying he was the best QB in spring practice). We'll be fine with whomever is taking snaps for us on Sep 10th.
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Completely agree.

tibor75 said:
The lengths which some OSU fans will go to defend OSU athletes is hilarious.
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Maybe one of your dumbest statements ever, towel-terrorist. Seriously, you have to expect some people to go overboard in defense of these players, especially when we have jack-offs like you taking every opportunity you can to belittle and attack them. Oh, yeah, you're a fan. Right. And I'm a good golfer.
 
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nevada over on BN said that he just spoke with some of the staff and they are expecting an additional 1-2 suspension, but are cautiously optimistic that nothing will come of this.

the question then becomes, does osu wait out the ncaa for a ruling in hopes of getting smith on the field for the texas game only to levy an additional suspension later (if that is even permissable) or do they just levy their own 2 game suspension and get it done with.
 
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Not entirely relevent but it irritated me so i figured i'd post it....

My buddy goes to OSU and saw Troy today, didn't speak with him but here is his comments..

n: Troy smith isnt driving anything special at least though ill tell you that.
n: He was parked in a teachers restricted parking spot and he drove a red impala
 
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Oh calm down...So the kid missed a class. How many of us who went to college didn't "blow off" a class now and then. Better question would be is "What kind of grade did Troy earn in the class?" If he recieved an "A" because of his efforts don't you think the kid earned missing one class? Especially for charity?
On the other hand if he flunked the class, well that is another story....
 
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Wingate1217 said:
Oh calm down...So the kid missed a class. How many of us who went to college didn't "blow off" a class now and then. Better question would be is "What kind of grade did Troy earn in the class?" If he recieved an "A" because of his efforts don't you think the kid earned missing one class? Especially for charity?
On the other hand if he flunked the class, well that is another story....
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This isn't about skipping class. The trouble is why he skipped class. If he had skipped class to say home and play Xbox this wouldn't be an NCAA issue.
 
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