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QB Tathan Martell (transfer to Miami, transfer to UNLV)

Neither. I don't even know why that is relevant.
You can decide for yourself what is relevant, but you probably knew what I was asking as it was simple and stated plainly. I was asking what you meant when you said that the bad look for OSU is "compounded by the fact that [Martell] has to seek his own [hardship] waiver." It was a sincere question, not a challenge.
 
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I'm saying my point is that everyone's opinion on the matter is based off assumptions. Why do I have to spell out even the most simple concepts here?

If it was “I think it is a bad look in my opinion, and only my opinion...” that would be one thing. Saying it is a bad look as if that is fact is evidenced by things outside you’re own opinion, is what brought all of this on.
 
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You can decide for yourself what is relevant, but you probably knew what I was asking as it was simple and stated plainly. I was asking what you meant when you said that the bad look for OSU is "compounded by the fact that [Martell] has to seek his own [hardship] waiver." It was a sincere question, not a challenge.
Because he has to seek a waiver and can't do a grad transfer, it makes more difficult for him, which implies he was clearly in a big hurry to leave.
 
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I said before it was my opinion. I don't think it is only my opinion though - I assume others share the opinion.

Ok. You assume other people feel that way, to the contrary of what anybody else in this discussion is saying. Small sample size but there is a belief that is being held by only one person so far. And another that is held by pretty much everyone else. You can figure the two out.
 
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I posed 4 distinct questions. You did not respond to any of them, just determined I am biased because I questioned the basis for your conclusions. And I am the one who is biased?
Your other questions are mostly irrelevant. 1. Tate was the clear back up. Day used him as the number 2 behind Haskins. So yeah, I expect before Fields, he was the potential starter. 2. No, but so what? Whether anyone would turn down Fields is irrelevant to the issue. 3. Nobody suggested anything about Ohio State applying for a waiver. There seems to be confusion over my use of the phrase of "his own waiver" in that I am saying his own in relation to Fields needing a waiver, now Tate does as well. Not that someone else would apply for the waiver.
 
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Ok. You assume other people feel that way, to the contrary of what anybody else in this discussion is saying. Small sample size but there is a belief that is being held by only one person so far. And another that is held by pretty much everyone else. You can figure the two out.
Yes, this thread looks like a bunch of people going out of their way to convince themselves that this was handled perfectly by everyone involved, or at the least, the staff. I don't know if it was or not. But just because people on this board come to a consensus, doesn't mean that my view is invalid.
 
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Yes, this thread looks like a bunch of people going out of their way to convince themselves that this was handled perfectly by everyone involved, or at the least, the staff. I don't know if it was or not. But just because people on this board come to a consensus, doesn't mean that my view is invalid.

I don’t know how it was handled. Neither do you. Neither does Joe BP. That’s the point. So now it’s just that you think it looks bad and so you assume others think the same. I’m not convincing myself of anything. But the complete lack of shade being thrown on the subject by any entity that would have an interest kind of helps me see that it’s not really viewed negatively by anyone who looks deep in to things like this. National outcry against Ohio State over anything is kind of a thing, see recent past.
 
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I don’t know how it was handled. Neither do you. Neither does Joe BP. That’s the point. So now it’s just that you think it looks bad and so you assume others think the same. I’m not convincing myself of anything. But the complete lack of shade being thrown on the subject by any entity that would have an interest kind of helps me see that it’s not really viewed negatively by anyone who looks deep in to things like this. National outcry against Ohio State over anything is kind of a thing, see recent past.
I said I think it is a bad look, but it doesn't rise to the level of a fiasco. My neighbor's dog poops on the sidewalk sometimes, it's a bad look, but I'm not going to set her house on fire over it.
 
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Saying something looks bad is always going to be subjective. I don't see why that is so difficult for some people to understand, or why they feel the need to try to shout other people down because they think it looks bad. Comes across very Pedo State like.
Maybe the problem is that people are trying to understand and discuss your points.....but you take it as being shouted down. Asking to clarify your vagueness isn't shouting you down.
 
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Maybe the problem is that people are trying to understand and discuss your points.....but you take it as being shouted down. Asking to clarify your vagueness isn't shouting you down.
Er, yeah. I don't think I have been vague at all.
No, I freely admit I know nothing other than what I have seen happen in the public eye, and it looks like it was probably not handled that well by either party to me. The main reason being that it was in the public eye to begin with. Part of that may be on Tate for his public comments, and part of it may be on the staff for not letting Tate know their intentions earlier (of course, there are valid reasons why they wouldn't). Bottom line is that if this scenario would have played out at another school, people here would probably be laughing about it. So yeah, it is a bad look in my opinion, even if it is fairly minor in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Your other questions are mostly irrelevant. 1. Tate was the clear back up. Day used him as the number 2 behind Haskins. So yeah, I expect before Fields, he was the potential starter. 2. No, but so what? Whether anyone would turn down Fields is irrelevant to the issue. 3. Nobody suggested anything about Ohio State applying for a waiver. There seems to be confusion over my use of the phrase of "his own waiver" in that I am saying his own in relation to Fields needing a waiver, now Tate does as well. Not that someone else would apply for the waiver.
Tate was used as the backup as Baldwin red shirted. Supposedly during the practices leading up to the bowl Baldwin had performed extremely well and was pushing Tate. Was Tate a potential starter (both before and after Fields)? Yes. Was he the potential starter? Maybe.
You state your opinions as facts, and then call anyone who disagrees biased. You avoid facts that don't align with your narrative. Gotcha. Now I understand how this conversation works.
 
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Because he has to seek a waiver and can't do a grad transfer, it makes more difficult for him, which implies he was clearly in a big hurry to leave.
which given his history of big talk then walking away means what? He wants to get to a new school without a QB so he can be the man... as far as leaving and waivers/grad transfer .. thats all on him .. he chose not to compete for the job after smack talk and I guess contrary to other rumors didn’t have himself lined up to graduate this spring... so my question to you.. if he was leaving anyways (as it looks) WHY would he stick around and not go to his new school immediately?
 
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