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QB Matthew Baldwin (transfer to TCU)

I would go with a top flight QB and then a MAC kid who loves tOSU. At least you have depth then.

Sounds reasonable but the tricky part for a program of OSU's caliber is that if a kid is good enough to actually help, then he's probably good enough to start at any MAC level and quite a few P5 schools.

No easy fix to this one I'm afraid.
 
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I would go with a top flight QB and then a MAC kid who loves tOSU. At least you have depth then.
Agreed. That's going to have to be the new model for elite CFB teams moving forward. No longer can you fill your roster with 4 and 5star QBs. IMO, if we had Cardale, JT and Braxton, 2 would bolt easily. I'd see Guitton probably leaving as well. This monster has been brewing for decades, and with kids seeing little push back from the NCAA, they're going to leave. It has nothing to do with the BS that fans will spin about a kid not wanting competition, but finding a path to the NFL, and there's no path sitting on the bench and waiting. And it's ironic how you don't hear from OSU fans that Fields didn't want to compete, when he essentially knew that he wasn't going to beat out Fromm and transferred to a school where he knew he had an easier path... :roll2:
 
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Sounds reasonable but the tricky part for a program of OSU's caliber is that if a kid is good enough to actually help, then he's probably good enough to start at any MAC level and quite a few P5 schools.

No easy fix to this one I'm afraid.
Valid point as well. There just isn't an easy fix, but that's the closest you're going to get.
 
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Valid point as well. There just isn't an easy fix, but that's the closest you're going to get.

I think it's going to take a year by year, case by case approach with a mix of JUCO, transfer portal, under rated HS kids and die hard Ohio kids. It is really just going to depend on each kids situation each year. I don't think a set formula is going to work.

The good news is that OSU isn't the only school that is facing this issue but it is one of the handful of schools that can pull in a kid like Fields to replace a guy like Haskins.

First world problems of CFB.
 
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I think it's going to take a year by year, case by case approach with a mix of JUCO, transfer portal, under rated HS kids and die hard Ohio kids. It is really just going to depend on each kids situation each year. I don't think a set formula is going to work.

The good news is that OSU isn't the only school that is facing this issue but it is one of the handful of schools that can pull in a kid like Fields to replace a guy like Haskins.

First world problems of CFB.
Agreed with all stated. It will take a combo of all mentioned, while still being able to secure a top end QB talent to hopefully guide the team. And you're right, every team in CFB will encounter this problem. Didn't Clemson only have 2 schollie QBs on roster this past year? Imagine, their spot, I don't see a top kid considering them at QB until Lawrence is in his 3rd year. And Bama lucked out that Tua had a little brother who is just as talented, or they'd be in the same boat. Muscial chair QBs will be the norm.
 
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Sounds reasonable but the tricky part for a program of OSU's caliber is that if a kid is good enough to actually help, then he's probably good enough to start at any MAC level and quite a few P5 schools.

No easy fix to this one I'm afraid.
No doubt... but finding a kid like Danny Clark for example would be a perfect back up. Loves OSU, from ohio, but not quite good enough to start somewhere over elite prospects.

They're out there but definately won't be easy to find.

That said this changes everything and may make football more even. No longer can a team hang onto 4 stud QBs. Shoot schools will be lucky to have 2 good QBs now.
 
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That said this changes everything and may make football more even. No longer can a team hang onto 4 stud QBs. Shoot schools will be lucky to have 2 good QBs now.

It's almost like they are going to have to build in a year between stud prep QB's if you think about it.

The Guy type is, by current circumstances and observation, only going to be willing to understudy for 1 year. So something like this;

SR: The Guy I
JR: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy I
SO: The Guy II
r-Fr: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy II
or
Fr: The Guy III

That gives you 4-5 bodies in the QB room but only 2-3 legit OSU caliber QB's

Looking into my very hazy and cracked crystal ball, I could see this taking the elite schools back to the days of power I/pro style concepts. Keeping The Guy upright is going to be paramount. OL and running game will be critical.

I could also see some coaches saying "screw it" and getting a bevy of running QB's and just go Juice Williams on everybody's ass. It's the same offense and it seems like you can always find run first/marginal passing QB's from the HS ranks.
 
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What has happened with Haskins developement and leaving after just one year and then getting probably the highest ranked transfer ever to OSU is not a "normal" occurence. The fact that it happened at Oklahoma three times in a row is just not what is "normal" for even the highest levels of college football. I don't see that as a steady trend. QB trasnfers are a real trend untill the NCAA steps in. Building QB depth is going to be a pain! But local kids are going to help in that regard even in these times.
 
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It's almost like they are going to have to build in a year between stud prep QB's if you think about it.

The Guy type is, by current circumstances and observation, only going to be willing to understudy for 1 year. So something like this;

SR: The Guy I
JR: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy I
SO: The Guy II
r-Fr: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy II
or
Fr: The Guy III

That gives you 4-5 bodies in the QB room but only 2-3 legit OSU caliber QB's

Looking into my very hazy and cracked crystal ball, I could see this taking the elite schools back to the days of power I/pro style concepts. Keeping The Guy upright is going to be paramount. OL and running game will be critical.

I could also see some coaches saying "screw it" and getting a bevy of running QB's and just go Juice Williams on everybody's ass. It's the same offense and it seems like you can always find run first/marginal passing QB's from the HS ranks.

Don't you dare say that name around here. I'm still drunk from that night.
 
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...this changes everything and may make football more even. No longer can a team hang onto 4 stud QBs. Shoot schools will be lucky to have 2 good QBs now.
I think the interesting part is going to be the impact this will have on recruiting at the high school level. Programs and coaches are soon going to realize that what they should be focusing on (in terms of elite players, anyway) is to try and recruit them after their freshman year in college. No reason to run around and spend a whole lot of time on the road wooing and cooing 15, 16, 17 year olds.

The high school recruiting circus is going to get disrupted. I don't think that's a bad thing altogether...
 
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It's almost like they are going to have to build in a year between stud prep QB's if you think about it.

The Guy type is, by current circumstances and observation, only going to be willing to understudy for 1 year. So something like this;

SR: The Guy I
JR: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy I
SO: The Guy II
r-Fr: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy II
or
Fr: The Guy III

That gives you 4-5 bodies in the QB room but only 2-3 legit OSU caliber QB's

Looking into my very hazy and cracked crystal ball, I could see this taking the elite schools back to the days of power I/pro style concepts. Keeping The Guy upright is going to be paramount. OL and running game will be critical.

I could also see some coaches saying "screw it" and getting a bevy of running QB's and just go Juice Williams on everybody's ass. It's the same offense and it seems like you can always find run first/marginal passing QB's from the HS ranks.
Yep. This.

We are going to have to be very strategic with the QB position. I like the idea you put out here.

2019- no QB
2020- elite QB (jack)
2021- middle of the road
2022- Elite kid

This is another possibility... start recruiting kids like Jalin Marshall again. Put them at WR and get them a few reps at QB along the way.
 
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It's almost like they are going to have to build in a year between stud prep QB's if you think about it.

The Guy type is, by current circumstances and observation, only going to be willing to understudy for 1 year. So something like this;

SR: The Guy I
JR: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy I
SO: The Guy II
r-Fr: roster filler/development/grad transfer guy II
or
Fr: The Guy III

That gives you 4-5 bodies in the QB room but only 2-3 legit OSU caliber QB's

Looking into my very hazy and cracked crystal ball, I could see this taking the elite schools back to the days of power I/pro style concepts. Keeping The Guy upright is going to be paramount. OL and running game will be critical.

I could also see some coaches saying "screw it" and getting a bevy of running QB's and just go Juice Williams on everybody's ass. It's the same offense and it seems like you can always find run first/marginal passing QB's from the HS ranks.
This could happen or you could just have first year starters continually go in the first round.
 
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Agreed. That's going to have to be the new model for elite CFB teams moving forward. No longer can you fill your roster with 4 and 5star QBs. IMO, if we had Cardale, JT and Braxton, 2 would bolt easily. I'd see Guitton probably leaving as well. This monster has been brewing for decades, and with kids seeing little push back from the NCAA, they're going to leave. It has nothing to do with the BS that fans will spin about a kid not wanting competition, but finding a path to the NFL, and there's no path sitting on the bench and waiting. And it's ironic how you don't hear from OSU fans that Fields didn't want to compete, when he essentially knew that he wasn't going to beat out Fromm and transferred to a school where he knew he had an easier path... :roll2:
Funny how that works, eh?
 
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This could happen or you could just have first year starters continually go in the first round.
I think this is the more likely scenario. The transfer portal is going to become a clearinghouse for available talent. Sitting on a bench for 2/3/4 years to get reps (and visibility) as a starter just shortens your career by that much. The era of 2/3-year starters in elite programs is a thing of the past.

Look at how many starts Nick Bosa had (maybe a dozen?)... if you have talent and you're confident, it kinda doesn't matter. Once you get on TV and you get scouts looking at you on any given Saturday, you're golden. The earlier the better. If not, put your name in the transfer portal because there's always going to be a 2nd tier D1 program where you can get on stage.
 
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