He carried the team on his back in last year’s game and while I agree that the lack of running is maddening, was he the reason we lost this year’s game?
I’m not trying to be positive, I’m trying to be a rational human being.
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I’m not trying to be positive, I’m trying to be a rational human being.
Do you even know what a Blase* attitude is? Don't confuse that with being stoic in the face of pressure. There are two entirely different things. People thinking CJ didn't want to win as badly as they do FROM THE STANDS OR THE COUCH IN THEIR HOUSE are fucking morons. Some people DO show it differently.
And so he's not a runner, and yes it's something that he'll have to learn in a hurry in the NFL. That great, but it's on the COACHES to put him in a position to succeed and support what he does do well. There are 5 star studs all over the field. Use them properly.
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sg86
Heisman
Is he the only reason? No.
But he danced around in a clean pocket all day and there were multiple big throws that were off target or that he waited too long to release because he was obsessed with looking for something better. The guy has a tremendous amount of talent but he's an absolute headcase. When the first sign of adversity comes or when things aren't going perfect he puts his head down, dances in the pocket waiting all day for who knows what. On the rare occasion he does run, he always makes the decision to do so about 5 seconds after he should, so he gets like 5 yards instead of a first down. He's a great kid with incredible talent but he's an absolute mess mentally.
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Gunlife
Hall of Fame
I would say more blame goes to Knowles or Day. Whoever decided to make no defensive adjustments at halftime.
It is hard to see the receivers downfield with the tv feed, but I thought the Oline was great all day long. Stroud looked frozen up. I can't believe there were no windows... But a lot of the play calling did seems to be to the sidelines.
I don't know if I can stomach rewatching the game to get a better idea what happened.
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sg86
Heisman
They made defensive adjustments and then Michigan ran the ball, putting together a long TD drive because we dropped more guys out of the box. What game were some of you watching? Knowles called the right defense. It worked for most of the first half. The players simply weren't capable of executing it consistently.
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billmac91
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Michigan's defense was on point. The windows were extremely tight. The one great throw I recall, was down 15 in the 4th, and we had no choice but to force a throw in. He hit Emeka perfectly in a pretty small window.
You have to give credit where it's due though. Michigan was stride for stride nearly the entire day and played downhill defensively. It was the complete opposite of our defense which was constantly chasing guys from behind. Michigan played 2 safeties high nearly entire day forcing us to work underneath, but they also had the benefit of dropping a DE out into coverage only rushing 3 which was a solid game-plan when you know CJ loves the blitz, and one of our core plays is the WR slant or screen. A more mobile QB probably negates this but we know what it is at this point.
I really think Michigan exploited our scheme and made it exceptionally hard on CJ all day. And CJ threw some dimes that just weren't caught as well.
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Systems_id
Head Coach
It's pick your poison. Either risk giving up long TDs or let SCUM go on slow clock eating drives. It felt like the entire gameplan revolved around the defense getting a few key stops in the first half and trusting the offense would get their shit together to put pressure on SCUM to score quickly. No one here thought the secondary would collapse like they did and all of us were expecting JJ to throw wide open WRs by 5 yards like he was doing all year.
Like what's the answer other than empty "THIS IS OHIO STATE" platitudes people keep repeating?
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100% of the ones that mattered
He won a Bowl game and went 0-2 in The Game.
If that's a winner in your book then so be it. It's not in mine.
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sg86
Heisman
Yea, this IS Ohio State. Which is why you should be able to call a defense with man coverage and assume your DBs can carry that out without letting guys get 20-25 yards behind them uncovered. People weren't wide open because the scheme failed. They were wide open because the players failed. And you can sit here and blame player failure on whatever you want, but the Knowles defense that led to the long TDs was the same one that people were praising when it gave up almost no rushing yards early. The difference was that the players started failing in their assignments.
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Climb down off the cross man. The self righteous moralizing forum is down the hall on the left
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Not it at all.
You guys need to take a step back off of the ledge and imagine if someone was saying these things about your child.
I get it! As someone who sat in the Stadium during most of Cooper’s meltdowns I TOTALLY understand the frustration but some of the stuff being said about players on here is disappointing and something I’d expect on other websites.
It’s not a moral high horse, it’s called being a human being.
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