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QB Antonio Henton (transfer to Ga. Southern and FT. Valley St.)

I am sure the young man will be OK.But you can bet he is mortified by the embarisment he has caused his momma and for that he is truly sorry.As for getting caught doing what many others do and have done for centurys was bad luck.I think he probably cares what coach Tress thinks of him also.It will be an experience for him that will help shape his life in many ways.Good Luck Young Fella
 
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Zurp;943389; said:
I think Tressel is doing this properly. You can't turn your back on him for one mistake, especially if he's showing regret for his actions (I don't know that Antonio is showing regret - I'm just guessing that he is). Support your players, but don't simply let them off the hook for screwing up.
Exactly. Troy Smith had to pay the price for accepting money from a booster, but imagine what the 2005 and 2006 seasons would have been like if Troy Smith had transferred out.

Henton could contribute in some way in the future (He already is with all the injuries at running back), and we need to see what he can do in the future.

I'm not necessarily a Henton fan. He doesn't seem to have any touch to his passes. The only quarterback who has impressed me this year is obviously Boeckman. But, I do love how Henton runs the ball.
 
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Bleed S & G;942304; said:
I disagree. Sure we we're "burned" but thats because, as time showed, Clarett was a fucking nut job. Point and case (beyond cruising with a lint roller and a AK):
[youtube]s1rAPT7O4x0[/youtube]

I don't think it's an overreaction. I don't know if you (Brutus) condemend the kid to hell and the bench for the next 4 years, but I would argue that others here have "overreacted" and it seems that most of those people are not regular posters here. Others are overreacting, and he responded to those with a very good post IMO.

At any rate, good luck Henton.. you gotta work your way back up the ladder, but as Troy Smith just taught us.. everyone deserves a second (and in Smiths case, a 3rd) chance. You'll have the Clarett's, who fuck you over with the second chance. But those like Troy, will outweigh the bad memories.. in 20 years Clarett will be nothing but a "coulda-been", where as Troy Smith "was." His name will be hung in the Shoe next to those like Archie and Eddie, and the "Troy Smith saga" gives me faith in Jim Tressel, his program, and his judgement. Good luck again Henton.. look forward to you "earning" your role in this program and wacthing you for the next few years.

Holy shit, I had never seen that vid of Clarett. WTF was/is wrong with him??
 
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daveeb;943454; said:
Exactly. Troy Smith had to pay the price for accepting money from a booster, but imagine what the 2005 and 2006 seasons would have been like if Troy Smith had transferred out.

That isn't even my point. I think that this is one situation where winning isn't the number one priority for Jim Tressel. He needs to put a respectable team on the field every game. By "respectable," I'm including their performance on the field as well as the people they are off the field. That's why I think he was right to suspend Henton for a game (and my guess is that he won't play much the rest of the season). But I think the ball is now (or soon will be) in Henton's court. If he's going to get by this, as a person (not as a football player) he needs to make the right decisions concerning this situation. Tressel is treating him like a member of the family, not as "just a name" on his player roster. Tressel is giving him the opportunity to use this as a learning experience, instead of Step 1 of a potential downfall.

I would have this opinion for any player, any coach, any team, any sport. It has nothing to do with Antonio Henton, his current abilities, or his potential at The Ohio State University.
 
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Zurp;943470; said:
That isn't even my point. I think that this is one situation where winning isn't the number one priority for Jim Tressel. He needs to put a respectable team on the field every game. By "respectable," I'm including their performance on the field as well as the people they are off the field. That's why I think he was right to suspend Henton for a game (and my guess is that he won't play much the rest of the season). But I think the ball is now (or soon will be) in Henton's court. If he's going to get by this, as a person (not as a football player) he needs to make the right decisions concerning this situation. Tressel is treating him like a member of the family, not as "just a name" on his player roster. Tressel is giving him the opportunity to use this as a learning experience, instead of Step 1 of a potential downfall.

I would have this opinion for any player, any coach, any team, any sport. It has nothing to do with Antonio Henton, his current abilities, or his potential at The Ohio State University.
I think you don't realize that we are sort of on the same page here. Bellisari was suspended for his last two regular season games, but he came in against South Carolina.

Henton will be suspended against Minnesota, be reinstated but not come in ahead of Schoenhoft in blowouts, and then eventually be given his shot when the starting job is up for grabs. If he gets his act together.

Wasn't Troy Smith suspended for accepting money for a booster, before being given the shot to earn back the starting job (Which he eventually did)?

I'm saying that Tressel lets players have their second chance if they deserve it. Exactly as you were. If they are deserving, of course.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;943662; said:
You see....nobody understands him. This attitude is despicable. I'd like to see anybody here go through an NFL practice without getting their Goose on.

:lol:

I know I wouldn't even think of it.:biggrin:
 
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daveeb;943548; said:
I think you don't realize that we are sort of on the same page here. Bellisari was suspended for his last two regular season games, but he came in against South Carolina.

Henton will be suspended against Minnesota, be reinstated but not come in ahead of Schoenhoft in blowouts, and then eventually be given his shot when the starting job is up for grabs. If he gets his act together.

Wasn't Troy Smith suspended for accepting money for a booster, before being given the shot to earn back the starting job (Which he eventually did)?

I'm saying that Tressel lets players have their second chance if they deserve it. Exactly as you were. If they are deserving, of course.

I realize that we are on the same side of the coin. But this comment made me think you were including the talent and athleticism of the person in your consideration:

daveeb;943454; said:
but imagine what the 2005 and 2006 seasons would have been like if Troy Smith had transferred out.

My point was intended to be (even if I didn't express it properly) that the talent, game-time performance, and potential of the player ought not be in the coach's mind when making decisions when it comes to suspending or reinstating a player.
 
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Zurp;943682; said:
My point was intended to be (even if I didn't express it properly) that the talent, game-time performance, and potential of the player ought not be in the coach's mind when making decisions when it comes to suspending or reinstating a player.
I understand what you meant. My point was meant to be something along the lines of Troy Smith's growing experiences helped him become who he was at OSU. And when someone progresses as an individual after making a mistake, they deserve a second chance. But if they don't, they don't deserve a second chance.
 
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kn1f3party;943253; said:
I agree and disagree. I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty. That won't prevent myself, or many people criticizing him. I don't think he should be thrown out--even if he is guilty. I believe in second chances.

I don't agree with you that his crime isn't a crime, but we can agree to disagree here.

I agree with most of what you say. Soliciting a prostitute is a crime in Columbus, Ohio (by definition). If an athlete is guilty of a misdemeanor and shows remorse, then Ohio State should respond to its mission as an educational institution and provide him with an opportunity to learn from his error and rejoin the team, albeit with penalties of some kind.

I disagree with the position you take about criticizing Henton. We don't know that he wasn't playing the fool at the time and said something in jest that technically constituted an affirmative response to a solicitation. After all, he supposedly agreed to a $20 price with $19 in his pocket. We don't know that he is guilty or any of the particulars of that night until this matter is heard in court.

I might add that I agree with the journalist. The judge had no right to dress Henton down as she did. If he had been found guilty, fine, but he was pleading and had pleaded not guilty.

No matter what has happened, this young man has placed himself in the wrong place at the wrong time and will now have to accept the consequences of his actions. That will be a learning experience that could stand him in good stead the rest of his life.
 
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I am absolutely nobody. Whether I think he is guilty or innocent of the crime is completely irrelevant. I seriously hope he wasn't joking. Mistakes happen, but I would question his sense of humor and the thoroughness and professionalism of the undercover officer.
 
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