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Exactly. Troy Smith had to pay the price for accepting money from a booster, but imagine what the 2005 and 2006 seasons would have been like if Troy Smith had transferred out.Zurp;943389; said:I think Tressel is doing this properly. You can't turn your back on him for one mistake, especially if he's showing regret for his actions (I don't know that Antonio is showing regret - I'm just guessing that he is). Support your players, but don't simply let them off the hook for screwing up.
Bleed S & G;942304; said:I disagree. Sure we we're "burned" but thats because, as time showed, Clarett was a fucking nut job. Point and case (beyond cruising with a lint roller and a AK):
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I don't think it's an overreaction. I don't know if you (Brutus) condemend the kid to hell and the bench for the next 4 years, but I would argue that others here have "overreacted" and it seems that most of those people are not regular posters here. Others are overreacting, and he responded to those with a very good post IMO.
At any rate, good luck Henton.. you gotta work your way back up the ladder, but as Troy Smith just taught us.. everyone deserves a second (and in Smiths case, a 3rd) chance. You'll have the Clarett's, who fuck you over with the second chance. But those like Troy, will outweigh the bad memories.. in 20 years Clarett will be nothing but a "coulda-been", where as Troy Smith "was." His name will be hung in the Shoe next to those like Archie and Eddie, and the "Troy Smith saga" gives me faith in Jim Tressel, his program, and his judgement. Good luck again Henton.. look forward to you "earning" your role in this program and wacthing you for the next few years.
daveeb;943454; said:Exactly. Troy Smith had to pay the price for accepting money from a booster, but imagine what the 2005 and 2006 seasons would have been like if Troy Smith had transferred out.
I think you don't realize that we are sort of on the same page here. Bellisari was suspended for his last two regular season games, but he came in against South Carolina.Zurp;943470; said:That isn't even my point. I think that this is one situation where winning isn't the number one priority for Jim Tressel. He needs to put a respectable team on the field every game. By "respectable," I'm including their performance on the field as well as the people they are off the field. That's why I think he was right to suspend Henton for a game (and my guess is that he won't play much the rest of the season). But I think the ball is now (or soon will be) in Henton's court. If he's going to get by this, as a person (not as a football player) he needs to make the right decisions concerning this situation. Tressel is treating him like a member of the family, not as "just a name" on his player roster. Tressel is giving him the opportunity to use this as a learning experience, instead of Step 1 of a potential downfall.
I would have this opinion for any player, any coach, any team, any sport. It has nothing to do with Antonio Henton, his current abilities, or his potential at The Ohio State University.
Ummm ... Hydrated himself for a two-a-day workout under the summer sun with a $40 bottle of French vodka?Big Papa;943463; said:Holy shit, I had never seen that vid of Clarett. WTF was/is wrong with him??
You see....nobody understands him. This attitude is despicable. I'd like to see anybody here go through an NFL practice without getting their Goose on.Ummm ... Hydrated himself for a two-a-day workout under the summer sun with a $40 bottle of French vodka?
BuckeyeNation27;943662; said:You see....nobody understands him. This attitude is despicable. I'd like to see anybody here go through an NFL practice without getting their Goose on.
daveeb;943548; said:I think you don't realize that we are sort of on the same page here. Bellisari was suspended for his last two regular season games, but he came in against South Carolina.
Henton will be suspended against Minnesota, be reinstated but not come in ahead of Schoenhoft in blowouts, and then eventually be given his shot when the starting job is up for grabs. If he gets his act together.
Wasn't Troy Smith suspended for accepting money for a booster, before being given the shot to earn back the starting job (Which he eventually did)?
I'm saying that Tressel lets players have their second chance if they deserve it. Exactly as you were. If they are deserving, of course.
daveeb;943454; said:but imagine what the 2005 and 2006 seasons would have been like if Troy Smith had transferred out.
I understand what you meant. My point was meant to be something along the lines of Troy Smith's growing experiences helped him become who he was at OSU. And when someone progresses as an individual after making a mistake, they deserve a second chance. But if they don't, they don't deserve a second chance.Zurp;943682; said:My point was intended to be (even if I didn't express it properly) that the talent, game-time performance, and potential of the player ought not be in the coach's mind when making decisions when it comes to suspending or reinstating a player.
kn1f3party;943253; said:I agree and disagree. I agree that he is innocent until proven guilty. That won't prevent myself, or many people criticizing him. I don't think he should be thrown out--even if he is guilty. I believe in second chances.
I don't agree with you that his crime isn't a crime, but we can agree to disagree here.