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OK. Now even I wouldn't go that far.TheMightyQuinn;754229; said:BTW nothing Dryden been posting can be disagreed with. Their called facts. He is actually citing interviews and what moves companies are making. (which saves me from tracking them down)
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I won't argue with that. I've said all along Blu-Ray was a huge mistake, the addition of the Blu-Ray player set the PS3 back a year and raised the price $300. If Sony had released the exact same console for Christmas 2005 with a DVD player (like the XBox 360) for $300 it'd be game over, Sony FTW.BrutusMaximus;754240; said:
Blu-Ray still hasn't been adopted by Universal studios or New Line (at least last time I checked, not 100% on that though) and Sony dropped the hammer this week that they will not allow porn distribution on Blu-Ray. That's a nail in the coffin right there! New technology is not successful until it has been effectively hijacked for selling porn. Even the 3DO and CD-i had porn for crying out loud!
Beyond all that, Blu-Ray as a gamers' media format is Stupid, with a capital 'S.' The surface layer is 0.1mm thick, or something absurdly as thin as a hair. You put your CDs and DVDs back in their cases when you're done playing them, right? Because if you don't do that with your Blu-Ray discs your movies will be FUBAR'ed. Sucks you paid $35 a pop for them too. :tongue2:
EDIT: Sony should've gone with a "budget" PS3, and waited for 1080p adoption. Then they could've dropped this PS3 in 2008 or 2009. It's three years too early. Last figure I read was that only 13% of US homes have an HDTV set, and many of those don't do anything over 480p/1080i.
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TheMightyQuinn
"The future is bright at Ohio State."
BrutusMaximus;754253; said:
Ok now your making sense
. Seriously you talked about half-life in another thread. Have you played episode 1? Is it worth it? Has anyone heard anything about valve working on a half-life for the consoles?
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Half Life 2 will be out in both a "Black Box" special edition for the PC and an "Orange Box" special edition for the PC, 360, and PS3. Part of EA's announcement last week was that it was pushed back to Fall 2007, at the earliest.TheMightyQuinn;755175; said:
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BrutusMaximus
I Heart Boobs
Yeah October 2nd right now, which really pisses me off. Ep 2 was supposed to be out this month originally, until they started messing with the console version. Now us "hardcore" PC gamers have to wait
Episoide 1 was very awesome, just picked right up where HL 2 left off. I cannot wait for Ep 2, but I also am looking very forward to Team Fortress 2 with it.
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buckeyeman91
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High Def textures, video, 7.1 surround sound will fill up a disc quicker than you would think.motorstorm Dev said:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3156920Blu-Ray still hasn't been adopted by Universal studios or New Line (at least last time I checked, not 100% on that though) and Sony dropped the hammer this week that they will not allow porn distribution on Blu-Ray. That's a nail in the coffin right there! New technology is not successful until it has been effectively hijacked for selling porn. Even the 3DO and CD-i had porn for crying out loud!
Blu ray is outselling HD DVD 3:1, studio's on the fence are jumping over to the blu ray camp.
Blu ray has Walt Disney, Twentieth Century Fox, Lions Gate, Sony BMG Music Entertainment and Universal Music Group
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEbZt6AIQ
'Nuff said.
The gaming format does not matter, the games will be sold. Even though UMD's flopped as a whole, games are still being released on the format.
Sony can't win, they release a budget, crippled set, and they are criticized as the 'tard pack for 360 was. Or they include almost everything standard and they get backlash for the price.
PS3 has it's faults, the PS3 version of the market place is weak, no multi task downloading, and the lack of games. But it is far from dead in the water. The media can make the general public think whatever it wants.
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buckeyeman91
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Of course it isn't... If it was EA would make Madden so that people above the age of 12 would buy it because it was a quality game, not because it's the only game where you can make your favorite player throw for 600 yards in a game. The sales of madden are driven by people who don't know anything about video games, they just know "Madden"
Hardcore gamers will not pay via micro transactions for cheat codes for content that was included ON the disc, but the general public just knows "Well I do want unlimited health/that gun/that car, so I will spend a dollar on it, no big deal" While consumers are nickel and dimed because the general public doesn't realize THEY are the ones who drive the industry.
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Bleed S & G
Taking Crazy Pills
ooooooooooooo!!buckeyeman91;756633; said:
not true at all.. madden is not just for people under 12 sir.. you must suck
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buckeyeman91
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Of course madden is not just for people under 12, you misunderstood me, I mean that EA does not work to improve the series for the people who actually notice that the game needs improvements.
I apologize for my poor wording.
I apologize for my poor wording.
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BrutusMaximus
I Heart Boobs
Totally agree. It has been crap for a while now. Hell on the 360 version of 07, I once scored 123 points, because all you have to do is throw deep every play.
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Great. That's technology that maybe one-percent of PS3 owners will ever even use. Few people have 7.1 surround on their TVs. Fewer have a TV even capable of 1080p.buckeyeman91;756498; said:
Yes, I'm aware of those numbers from the holiday season. Maybe you would also point out that many launch PS3s included a copy of Talladega Nights and a voucher (or two) for additional Blu-Ray titles. When you give away 3 million Blu-Ray discs, the numbers compare quite favorably to the 1 million HD-DVDs that were actually purchased. Come back with Blu-Ray sales figures in the summer and let me know which one sells better then.buckeyeman91;756498; said:
Sorry, but those figures do not justify the bundling of Blu-Ray with a game console anyhow. You're grasping at straws and comparing Blu-Ray sales to HD-DVD as if either were even relevant. LaserDiscs outsold MCA DiscoVision 3:1 too, where'd that get either format?
The world is not ready for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Period. End of story. Joe Consumer off the street cannot discern the difference between the picture clarity of a DVD vs a VHS cassette for crying out loud, so HD(er) movies is a load of bunk. 99% of TV owners couldn't distinguish component from composite; 480p from 720p from 1080i -- it's doesn't make a difference. The only reason DVDs ever even took off was because DVD player prices dropped below VHS player prices and any schmoe off the street can walk into their local Big Box Mart and buy a movie for $10. It took the DVD format ten years to supplant VHS despite the obvious benefits of the media! So now, after the world has finally adopted DVD, and not for its hi-def movies and crystal clear audio, but because it's the cheapest and most convenient, the industry is switching formats again.
So you rebuy all your DVD movies as Blu-Ray. What media format will Sony sell you in 2017?
Sorry. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both have a niche and will fill it nicely for film buffs with a tremendous amount of disposable income and computer junkies who need more data. But the media does not benefit Joe Consumer yet, and will not for at least another 10 years. You're overestimating how quickly people will adopt new tech, and so is Sony. PS3 sales bear this out: an explosion of buyers at launch and then then sales have quickly tapered off. The people who really wanted the console have already bought it, and sales/momentum are dead in the water from here on out -- the exact same thing happened to LaserDiscs.
Universal is new then, I had not heard they'd adopted Blu-Ray, but do not find it a surprise either -- in fact I pointed this out in my original comment.buckeyeman91;756498; said:
Yeah, really.buckeyeman91;756498; said:
If Sony didn't bundle the Blu-Ray drive, nobody would give a shit, and you know it. Plain old DVD didn't hurt the sales of the 360. Heck, the Wii can't even play DVDs at all, and it's outselling both of them.buckeyeman91;756498; said:
Nobody said anything about "budget" or "crippled." Sony could've built the EXACT same system with DVD instead of Blu-Ray and sold it for $300. That's a fact.
So can the web sites the PS3 fanboys visit.buckeyeman91;756498; said:
It's one thing to have your brand trashed by IGN or GameSpot, it's quite another to have your platform be panned on the front pages of CNN.com, Time Magazine, USA Today, and on late night talk shows. It's a HUGE embarrassment to have a spokesperson with the tact of the Iraqi Information Minister be called a liar in a gaming publication, such as what happened when Sony's Jack Tretton told EGM, "If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it."
EGM called around and told Jack that 9 of the 18 stores they called reported having PS3s in stock, some stores claiming to have over 20 on hand.
Sony's Jack Tretton owes me $2,400 for the two that are over at my local Target right now.
It's over. An XBox 360 price cut is on the way, BTW. They're already dropping the equivalent of $100 USD in the EU and Australia to take advantage of the one month lead-in before the PS3 even goes on sale in those territories.
Eh. Whatever. I'm going to go have fun and play my Wii, 'cause I'm so softcore like that.
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