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Predict 2015 Starting QB

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Who will be UFM designate as the starting QB for 2015?

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Jeff Svoboda wrote some interesting things yesterday about Cardale Jones:

http://www.scout.com/college/ohio-state/story/1564114-svonotes-the-days-of-cardale

But some couldn’t help but wonder – in an upcoming quarterback race that could be determined by the slimmest of margins, could a joke like that from the head coach be a clue that the national championship-winning signal caller might have to clean up some of the little things?

Afterward, when speaking with the media for a few minutes, Meyer admitted occasional frustration with Jones.

“It’s a nonstop conversation with him because he’s magnetic,” Meyer said. “Who wants to hire people like that to be the CEO? Everybody. But he has to tighten up on some other areas – being on time, doing the right things. It just comes with maturity, and the good thing is he’s a very good person.

“His stuff is stuff. Being late for this – it’s stuff. It’s not the headline news. But his qualities – I never really knew it but he has incredible leadership skills. But it’s hidden. We keep trying to pull it out.”

For his part, Cardale understands those shortcomings. He admitted in an interview after the event that he’s in the “red” zone – the middle one, above blue but below gold – when it comes to the way the Buckeyes’ staff rates players for how they take care of business off the field. Competitors Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett, he said, are in the gold level.
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Right now I think observing this QB situation is like judging fly balls from the stands at a baseball game. A lot of people look at the ball and think they can tell when it's going out of the park. Most of the time though, you'll get a better indication by looking at the batter and the outfielder. Similarly, I think you'll get a better indication by looking to Coach Meyer than you will by looking at the players or any of the games they played over the last two years. This offseason Meyer has been over the top when he talks about Miller, unequivocal in his praise for Barrett, but he qualifies his public praise for Jones. I think that speaks volumes. That's why I keep saying that I haven't seen anything that says the previous pecking order won't be restored. That could change once they all get on the field and start to compete in fall practice, but if it does, you'll probably get an earlier and more reliable signal by interpreting the coach's words and demeanor than you will from keeping an eye on the players.
 
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jlb1705 said:
Right now I think observing this QB situation is like judging fly balls from the stands at a baseball game. A lot of people look at the ball and think they can tell when it's going out of the park. Most of the time though, you'll get a better indication by looking at the batter and the outfielder. Similarly, I think you'll get a better indication by looking to Coach Meyer than you will by looking at the players or any of the games they played over the last two years. This offseason Meyer has been over the top when he talks about Miller, unequivocal in his praise for Barrett, but he qualifies his public praise for Jones. I think that speaks volumes. That's why I keep saying that I haven't seen anything that says the previous pecking order won't be restored. That could change once they all get on the field and start to compete in fall practice, but if it does, you'll probably get an earlier and more reliable signal by interpreting the coach's words and demeanor than you will from keeping an eye on the players.
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Charlohiotean approves this message.:urban2:
 
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Ohio State vs. SEC: Why Buckeyes would be South's most talented team


http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...auburn-tigers-sec-starting-talent-test-071615

On Thursday I got a PR pitch about an article from Paul Bessire and John Ewing of PredictionMachine.com on who the Ohio State Buckeyes should start this season at quarterback among Braxton Miller, Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett. To try to determine it, the authors simulated Ohio State's regular-season 50,000 times with each quarterback as the starter.

Regardless of which quarterback starts, the Buckeyes win more than 11 games on average. By the numbers, Barrett would be the starter since OSU was more efficient offensively, both passing and rushing the ball. The difference between Barrett and Miller starting for Ohio State is nearly a field goal per game. OSU averaged 44 points per game with Barrett, 42 ppg with Jones and 41 with Miller. I tweeted out this info and my colleague Clay Travis marveled at the notion the Buckeyes have three quarterbacks capable of running an attack that averages over 40 points per game -- and that 95 percent of FBS teams don't have one
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exhawg said:
That's the thing that makes me lean to JT or Jones being the starter. Miller is good enough that he can find his way onto the field in other ways. if he is the starting QB the other 2 only see mop up time. Would the offense be at its best with JT or Jones playing QB and Miller making plays all over the field? I think it might. It would probably also be in Miller's best interest to get experience at something other than QB since I think he'll have an even harder time in the NFL than Pryor so a year head start as a Slash would be good for him. Maybe instead of hand signals they can rotate QB's every play. Now that would mind fuck a defense.
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I tend to think JT makes the offense better with Braxton on the bench. I also don't think Braxton is likely to have the health or durability to last all year at qb.

I'm fairly positive the offense is more diverse with Braxton on the field as a non qb who can rotate over to qb without allowing the defense to substitute.
 
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Voted for Barrett. If it truly is a straight up competition in camp for the job, I have a hard time believing JT isn't the best practice quarterback of the 3.

Cardale isn't going to win any tiebreakers based on Coach Meyer's comments above about not handling the little things and showing up late to things.
 
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kujirakira said:
Perhaps stupid question on my part, but assuming Play #1 has JT/Cardale at QB and Brax at Pivot... and play#2 moves Brax over to QB w/o allowing defense to substitute... where does JT/Cardale line up ?
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At wideout like any other wildcat situation with a non qb. Braxton just happens to also be one, to some degree based on health.
 
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jwinslow said:
At wideout like any other wildcat situation with a non qb. Braxton just happens to also be one, to some degree based on health.
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This seems like it could work a handful of times, at most, before teams just plan around ignoring the original QB at WR.
And then, as a constraint, you kind of get pigeon-holed into throwing it to JT or Cardale. To an extent, I could even see this working for Cardale (though I'd probably line him up as an H-back?) ... but I'm highly skeptical of JT lining up at WR and being more than a traffic cone.
 
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I'm lining up all 3 QBs on offense at some point. Let ESPN and ABC get into these coaches' heads during the week talking about 'what's Urban gonna do?'. Hand it off to Cardale up the middle so he can autopsy a safety. Pitch it out wide to Brax so he can disembowel a defensive backfield. JT can smoke a hand rolled cigar as he laughs because the defense fell for both decoys and then he runs for a TD. A bunch of possibilities.
 
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Saw31 said:
I'm lining up all 3 QBs on offense at some point. Let ESPN and ABC get into these coaches' heads during the week talking about 'what's Urban gonna do?'. Hand it off to Cardale up the middle so he can autopsy a safety. Pitch it out wide to Brax so he can disembowel a defensive backfield. JT can smoke a hand rolled cigar as he laughs because the defense fell for both decoys and then he runs for a TD. A bunch of possibilities.
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I THINK URBAN HAS A PLAN TO USE ALL 3 QB'S AT SOME POINT AND TIME. AND OPPOSING TEAMS WILL SEE THIS COMING. HOW DO YOU STOP AN OPPOSING OFFENSE LIKE THAT.
 
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