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buckeye4ever21
Heisman
Guys I'm gonna have to disagree with you. Troy Smith is the QB too run this team. He did not play well tonight but the pressure that the PSU defense was unbelievable, any QB would have struggled with that pressure. Smith did prove to throw the key turnover of the game, but he did lead us back. That fumble relies squarely on the shoulders of Ryan Hamby who wiffed on the block and gave him a clear shot on Smith. Gamby's never gonna get off the shit list. Smith went from clearly the best QB one week too very questionable the next. But lets be honest here do you think zwick would have been able to finish off that drive where Smith ran it in. All we did behind Zwick against the Texas D was throw up 3 pointers, I mean Smith didn't do much better but he does mix in a clutch long ball every once in awhile and he provides some tough rushing yards each game. I mean I don't really know how this performance in this environment would change the QB spot, he's still the leader in my mind. I mean we were basically the same teams going at each other with the same strengths, the turnover was the only difference. And Paul Posluszny is a great LB.
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BucksinFL
Buckeye fan for life.....
Hamby wiffed on the block. How does Smith NOT see that guy coming? He was standing there forever. As the play happened I said aloud "he doesnt even see the damn guy coming"....Smith had plenty of time tonite to throw the ball. Yes there was pressure, but geez he had some time tonite.
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EPBucks
Senior
What has Justin Zwick shown to you I have still yet to see anything to prove he should start over Smith. You can say all u want about smith throwing the ball to only one guy but the offense during the last two years has played its best when Smith has been the QB. So yes I am sticking with him.
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OSU_Buckguy
Head Coach
why didn't tressel and bollman establish or attempt to establish a running game in the second half? it was as though they packed in the running game and decided that the passing game was the only way. a good passing threat is most often potent due to the running threat. there was no running threat in the second half.
as far as smith or zwick? i don't know. smith played horribly tonight. he does not go through his progressions still, and he passes the ball too late. his downfield accuracy is poor. he has a tendency to throw shorter passes way too hard. his scampering works against mediocre to fair defenses, but psu has neither. psu can close on a runner much faster that the other defenses we've faced... even texas' defense. zwick? i don't know about him either. we must have very short memories if we already think that zwick is a great quarterback. the concerns we have about smith right now are those concerns we had about zwick only a short time ago. to be honest, i won't be at all upset if tressel goes back to zwick. i don't think that it would be good for the team's confidence, but it is something different. smith is not a passing quarterback.
as a side note, some before cited zwick's completion percentage. that statistic is largely misleading, as he garnered a substantial amount of completions while playing during garbage time.
our defense played very well today. effectively, the defense got us a tie ballgame. the defense kept 3 from becoming 7 and nearly stopped another touchdown after the interception. if our offense can't score more than 10 points, we deserve to lose. we are not a national championship caliber team. as good as our defense would or might fair against usc, texas, and others, there is absolutely no way that our offense could score enough points.
ginn looks like he's been running in mud. and he runs only sideways. he is a completely different player from last year. i hope that we no longer hear the exclamations that we must give ginn the ball more often if we want to win. this is not the case. had i not seen ginn last year, i'd say that he is just an average return guy/receiver. i've seen nothing special from him this year.
pittman is fine. pittman does a workman's job. he does nothing spectacular, but he can give you what you need if the offensive line does its job. it hurts, though, to watch sutton at northwestern. i have my concerns when i hear that tressel offered mr. ohio nothing. how many yards did he gain against psu?
who knows if our receivers are the best in the nation. if they don't get the ball, we can't know. yes, a large part of being a great receiver is running great routes and finding ways to get open. i don't know if that is what is keeping our receivers from being productive, however. i know holmes and gonzo run very good routes, so...
today was very frustrating. if our defense is going to remain a beast, they must given something to fight for. even great defenses become less so if their counterparts don't give them a reason to fight.
as far as smith or zwick? i don't know. smith played horribly tonight. he does not go through his progressions still, and he passes the ball too late. his downfield accuracy is poor. he has a tendency to throw shorter passes way too hard. his scampering works against mediocre to fair defenses, but psu has neither. psu can close on a runner much faster that the other defenses we've faced... even texas' defense. zwick? i don't know about him either. we must have very short memories if we already think that zwick is a great quarterback. the concerns we have about smith right now are those concerns we had about zwick only a short time ago. to be honest, i won't be at all upset if tressel goes back to zwick. i don't think that it would be good for the team's confidence, but it is something different. smith is not a passing quarterback.
as a side note, some before cited zwick's completion percentage. that statistic is largely misleading, as he garnered a substantial amount of completions while playing during garbage time.
our defense played very well today. effectively, the defense got us a tie ballgame. the defense kept 3 from becoming 7 and nearly stopped another touchdown after the interception. if our offense can't score more than 10 points, we deserve to lose. we are not a national championship caliber team. as good as our defense would or might fair against usc, texas, and others, there is absolutely no way that our offense could score enough points.
ginn looks like he's been running in mud. and he runs only sideways. he is a completely different player from last year. i hope that we no longer hear the exclamations that we must give ginn the ball more often if we want to win. this is not the case. had i not seen ginn last year, i'd say that he is just an average return guy/receiver. i've seen nothing special from him this year.
pittman is fine. pittman does a workman's job. he does nothing spectacular, but he can give you what you need if the offensive line does its job. it hurts, though, to watch sutton at northwestern. i have my concerns when i hear that tressel offered mr. ohio nothing. how many yards did he gain against psu?
who knows if our receivers are the best in the nation. if they don't get the ball, we can't know. yes, a large part of being a great receiver is running great routes and finding ways to get open. i don't know if that is what is keeping our receivers from being productive, however. i know holmes and gonzo run very good routes, so...
today was very frustrating. if our defense is going to remain a beast, they must given something to fight for. even great defenses become less so if their counterparts don't give them a reason to fight.
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BucksinFL
Buckeye fan for life.....
Every time hes been in this year, hes been more efficient with the ball. Smith is so up and down it drives me nuts. Im tired of him not learning to scan the field or find other options. He doesn't run like people say, but he stands in the pocket as long as possible and doesn't find a reciever. Thats pathetic.
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Buckeye513
Stable Genius
That doesn't mean he had an open receiver. Had he tried to force a pass, everyone would be crying about him being a bad QB even more.
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OSU_Buckguy
Head Coach
does smith have any awareness at all in the pocket??? does he think that he should be given 8 seconds to find an open receiver? that sack/fumble to end the game was expected if you're going to stand, practically sit, in the pocket that long. how can a quarterback expect to stand there that long without receiving pressure? sheesh.
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