Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I was just saying he has a mouthful of cock in hell right now.

sorry

Don't sell him short. He's got an ass full too

 

[gmen6981]

Looks like they are beginning to worship their new idol.

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=170529535&mid=170529535&sid=890&style=2

 

[kujirakira]

I don't understand. Are you saying he had success? Where? When? 20 years before he died?
Google search for Big Ten Championships, then copy/paste the coaches' names into excel, and have it count how many times it finds each coach's name from 1993 to 2011. You get the following:

Jim Tressel 6 (It doesn't list the 2010 championship that got vacated, even though it DOES list the 2005 and 2008 championships vacated by Penn State, with a footnote)
Lloyd Carr 5
Barry Alvarez 3
John Cooper 3
Joe Paterno 3
Bielema Barnett Ferentz 2
4 with 1

3 Big Ten Championships in 19 years is OK, and all. But we make fun of Carr, though he won more championships in fewer years. I think Paterno is fairly hungry right now.

The same as Choke Cooper is pretty umm... yea.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I don't know if some of you other BWIologists have been paying attention, but demlion has assembled a strong body of work over the last few months and really deserves to be considered in the BWI power rankings alongside such legendary 'tards as 9fold, Southeast PA Buck Hunter, Michael Felli, Bushwood CC and the elusive MaryLovesLions ( of the infamous "no blood; no rape" post) who makes up for infrequent posting by blasting her retard dial to 11 every time she touches a keyboard.

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=170521432&mid=170521432&sid=890&style=2

 

[DoctorWho]

Joe Paterno was a scum bag. He took the traitor way out and died. No honor among the Paternos. A sack of shit that bunch is.

 

[Deety]

Sundance: For embattled Matt Sandusky, a rare moment of redemption
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PARK CITY, Utah--Since the Jerry Sandusky scandal blew up several years ago, there have been few figures quieter than Matt Sandusky, the adult son of the convicted sex offender.

The younger Sandusky has stayed entirely out of the public eye, even after he came forward with an offer to testify against his adoptive father at the close of the trial.

That changed on Sunday, when the documentarian Amir Bar-Lev premiered "Happy Valley," his new movie about Joe Paterno, Penn State and the fallout from the Sandusky affair. Matt Sandusky appears in the film and is its emotional through-line, first describing how he was plucked from his impoverished childhood and adopted by Sandusky, and later how he was abused by the Penn State football coach.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...o-movie-20140120,0,472954.story#ixzz2rCYmvZQF

But then there is this...

"This is more of an inquiry than a look at the conspiracy," Bar-Lev said. "Here's a guy who represented the paragon of virtue for half a century. This is what he did with that information and here are the different opinions....It's a moral parable that makes you ask questions about yourself."

What, questions like, wouldn't we all let kid after kid get molested for year after year, despite being able to put a stop to it very easily, just so it wouldn't affect our jobs? Wouldn't we all watch this guy drag kids to campus and give him a happy wave as he passes? Wouldn't we promote an incompetent to ensure nothing nasty showed up in the papers? And most importantly, don't we all understand the value of weekends?

Blargh.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Jeff Dahmer was a great guy his entire life. Right up until he started murdering folks and grubbing on human flesh.

Really makes me ask the tough questions about myself. Will I kill and eat people? Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[LostLassie]

Since this story first broke on the 'net, Comments sections have been riddled with imbecilic remarks that essentially say "You can't judge. You can't possibly be certain what you would have done in a similar situation." Aside from their own ignorance, what the HELL makes them so certain that no one else ever has been in a similar situation?

Oh, and Buckyle: No offense, but I'm gonna pass on that dinner invitation...

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

A post from ORD's link (which, by the way, creeped my right the fuck out.. "He is watching" Ooof)

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Re: for those who believe in such things, it is certainly possible that JVPReply

I think there are a lot of people (blowhard fans of other teams, for example) who have since gone to hell that are surprised that Joe Paterno isn't there.

And I think that will continue.

So.... if you're a vocal fan of some team that is not PedState you go to hell. But, letting boys get raped for over 10 years while you don't ruin anyone's weekend sends you to heaven.
Nice.

 

[buxfan4life]

Yeah, the pedsters still say there was not a CULTure problem at Pedster U. If that is the case, then why have they deified their dead football coach? The fact that they are so ignorant as to how they act is just so damn amusing to me.

Met a guy who is a sane grad of Penn State the other day (board member of a new client). He did not grow up in PA but in NJ and told me he values the education he got there, but got turned off of football fandom due to, as he called it, "the culture and arrogance those fans not really affiliated with school created. They were just......weird."

 

[Deety]

Since this story first broke on the 'net, Comments sections have been riddled with imbecilic remarks that essentially say "You can't judge. You can't possibly be certain what you would have done in a similar situation." Aside from their own ignorance, what the HELL makes them so certain that no one else ever has been in a similar situation?

Yes, I don't think that is how it is supposed to work. You develop principles ahead of needing to use them. Yes, humanity is inherently fallible, but if that in itself excused sin, there would be no sin. Putting a stamp of approval on a child rapist was evil. Not many of us would do something so evil - though I wonder more and more - but even if we all did, it would still be evil.

And after the fact, good people don't say, oh well, I don't know what I would have done. They say, if I haven't already, I am deciding right now what I would do so I am never tempted into something that causes such great harm. What kind of person thinks through this situation day after day on those message boards and still has no inkling what they would do? Don't you... decide?

And even if the worst possible thing was done in the panic of the moment - Sandusky ought never have left that shower in one piece - weren't all those involved deciding, every day thereafter, every time they saw Sandusky "treating" some kid to time on campus, to allow it to continue?

And when someone does make a horrible mistake out of weakness, greed, or various shades of awful, good people don't say, ah well, fallibility excuses it. They encourage someone who has messed up to own up, take the consequences, repair what can be repaired, and ask forgiveness for the rest. You care about someone, that's what you do for them - you help them out of the pit, not say it's fine that they are in there. The people who write those sorts of responses... it's as though they saw their golden calf sitting in a dung heap and decided the best way to make that okay was to get in there and roll around, too.

 

[LostLassie]

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=170529535&mid=170529535&sid=890&style=2

for those who believe in such things, it is certainly possible that JVP
knows all that has happened since his death, because he is watching.

Joe likes to watch, I guess.

Reading through Ord's link, aside from the yardstick I needed to wedge under my jaw to keep it from falling open, and the waste basket I judiciously placed nearby in the event my nausea got the better of me, I'm stammeringly clueless about how to even start to respond. It's all been said before, but the relentless insanity and obscene excuse for morality of these people, coupled with their wholly baseless certainty of their superiority...well, it's mind numbing.

They love their Bible down there in the Valley, and quote it incessantly, and comprehend it as little as they comprehend anything else.

Ranting about "by their fruits you shall know them" but that fetid, maggot-riddled heap of putrefying organic matter under their own tree--no clue.

For the "Move On" crowd I would suggest reading Isaiah 1:17 "Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause."

Um, given the history there, I wouldn't be bringing up the subject of fatherless children, if I were them.

Freaking dictionary illustration for cognitive dissonance...

Some years ago, I happily arrived at the realization that one cosmic responsibility I do not hold is to determine the appropriate karmic invoice for anyone else. No, not even Uncle Adolph. Not my job. Not even required to expend energy trying to imagine what might be appropriate. Requested and was granted a discharge from celestial jury duty. It was amazingly freeing. That said, I find myself incapable of reading the synaptic pus that passes for thought on that forum without feeling the temptation to wish--even pray just a little--for at least one F5 tornado to visit Slap-Happy Valley. There simply isn't any such thing as too much awfulness that could descend on these obstinate, clay-footed-god-worshipping, dunderheads. They're demanding justice? Oh, please Lord, give 'em some.

Can you tell they got under my skin? Maybe there's a Gold Bond for that...

 

[Deety]

Some years ago, I happily arrived at the realization that one cosmic responsibility I do not hold is to determine the appropriate karmic invoice for anyone else. No, not even Uncle Adolph. Not my job. Not even required to expend energy trying to imagine what might be appropriate. Requested and was granted a discharge from celestial jury duty. It was amazingly freeing.

What happens with their souls is between them and God, though it's sad to see people go so far off course. The part that horrifies me is the lack of basic ideas of right and wrong - not because it's fun to look down on them, which they seem to think is the motivation. It's because the attitude we see sets the stage for horrible things to happen there again - whether it involves the almighty football team or is just some bystander in his own neighborhood who justifies not helping a kid because people were fine with Joe when he didn't. We will hear much more out of that cesspool; zero doubt.

 

[LostLassie]

The "fun" part would have been for this never to have happened--for the hands reaching out to those unprivileged children to have actually been extended with care and humanity, with a sincere desire to see them grow and flourish. It would be fun if that was true instead of the grotesque opposite that occurred in PA, and continues to occur all over the world in one "charity" after another. (See Jimmy Saville).

There's a good reason they hear laughter in PA. The emotional energy generated by exposure to their lunacy has to be expelled in some way. It's exhausting to cry about it, and unhealthy to hold on to rage. Sometimes, laughter isn't with you or at you, it's because of you--because it's impossible not to laugh.

 

[kujirakira]

this was just a criminal case when Joe died

just a criminal case?
Normally wouldn't you say something is just imaginary NCAA illegal

The petty entanglements of the living, their woes and their self-worship and their hypocrisy

is he talking about himself?

In any event, Joe, rest easy:

WE GOT THIS.

Sweeping it all under the carpet didn't work the first time...

I imagine he forgives them for what they have done because that is the kind of person he is.

I suspect Paterno is more keen on the forget part in "forgive and forget".

The situation always seemed like a perfect storm of ignorant, self-motivated, or vindictive individuals .... Even before this mess, the true Joe was always secret to most of the world

Well... can't disagree with that. Though I don't think it means what he thinks it means.

it is not the corrupt BOT members and Doofus Davey Jones of the world who make this world a better place -- it is the Joseph Vincent Paterno's

For having the good decency to not ruin somebody's weekend and covering up rape for over a decade.

Repentance is expressing contrition or remorse for one's sins. We haven't seen any of that from the Board of Trustees Traitors, circa 2011-12.

Never saw it from Joe Paterno either.... not sure what anyone on the Board has to repent for. They would've been negligent of their fiduciary duties to continue associating Paterno with the University.

No doubt, hence the axiom, "The Truth shall set you free".... There are only two "Philosophies of Life" - i) That you are accountable to a higher authority for how you lead your life (i.e., "free will" is an obligation as much as it is a gift).....there is something greater then you in the universe and in regards to "life", "Intelligence" and "free will" and we are here for a "purpose" and accountable for the way we lead our life (which is nothing more then a series of "decisions" - i.e., people FREELY CHOOSE to do both good and evil, but those terms only mean something if you BELIEVE in "morality", "a keeper of the faith",, etc..).... AND, ii) There is no "accountability" in regards to how you lead your life....there is nothing greater then you in the universe.....the rule of the jungle.....whatever gives you maximum pleasure and satisfaction is "morality"......you make your own "morality" just as the animals in the jungle make their own morality.....only a fool practices self-discipline, self-restraint and humility to a higher authority....FREELY CHOOSING to "break faith" with THE COVENANT.

Completely off topic, but as an Agnostic ... people like Bushwood CC have always made me feel grateful that religion exists. If you need religion to have morals and values, then by all means... please... keep the faith. There's a reason the Church does its best recruiting in the prison system and I fully support that endeavor.

For the "Move On" crowd I would suggest reading Isaiah 1:17 "Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause."

Too bad it didn't say anything about seeking justice or correcting oppression for raped children.
The authors of the Bible probably didn't anticipate how utterly deranged an organization like Joe Paterno's Penn State could be.